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Re: Mass tourism protesters squirt water at Barcelona tourists

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Post by nickpp »

eesmith wrote: post #110
nickpp wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And immigrants impact housing by renting them thus increasing demand.

And Italians (40K), followed by Pakistani (23K), Chinese (22K), and French (17K), are the top immigrant nations to Barcelona before finally getting to Moroccans (16K), which is the only African nation in the top 11 listed at https://www.barcelona.cat/metropolis/es/contenidos/demografi... . All population information I can find says your seemingly racist viewpoint is not backed by any evidence that it's a significant…

Did I say or imply anything about the race of the immigrants?!

Re: Mass tourism protesters squirt water at Barcelona tourists

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Post by eesmith »

nickpp wrote: post #111
eesmith wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Italians (40K), followed by Pakistani (23K), Chinese (22K), and French (17K), are the top immigrant nations to Barcelona before finally getting to Moroccans (16K), which is the only African nation in the top 11 listed at https://www.barcelona.cat/metropolis/es/contenidos/demografi... . All population information I can find says your seemingly racist viewpoint is not backed by any evidence that it's a significant…

Did I say or imply anything about the race of the immigrants?!

"a flux of African immigrants who in turn have families with 6 to 10 kids. And insignificant new housing. But they choose to bother tourists because it's cool."

Would you have preferred "xenophobic", "nativist", or "bigoted" instead?

No non-Moroccan African countries were even on that list of immigrant populations in Catalonia.

I checked with https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racismo_cultural and indeed even in Spanish "racism" does not specifically require "race":

> El racismo cultural, también denominado «neoracismo» o «racismo diferencial», es una forma de racismo surgida después de la Segunda Guerra Mundial en la que la identificación de los grupos humanos no se basa en sus rasgos biológicos (en la «raza», un concepto deslegitimado después de 1945) sino en su cultura, estableciendo una jerarquía de culturas «superiores» e «inferiores» como en el viejo racismo científico.

Re: Mass tourism protesters squirt water at Barcelona tourists

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Post by aaomidi »

nickpp wrote: post #111
eesmith wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Italians (40K), followed by Pakistani (23K), Chinese (22K), and French (17K), are the top immigrant nations to Barcelona before finally getting to Moroccans (16K), which is the only African nation in the top 11 listed at https://www.barcelona.cat/metropolis/es/contenidos/demografi... . All population information I can find says your seemingly racist viewpoint is not backed by any evidence that it's a significant…

Did I say or imply anything about the race of the immigrants?!

Dog whistles are dog whistles buddy.

Re: Mass tourism protesters squirt water at Barcelona tourists

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Post by nickpp »

eesmith wrote: post #112
nickpp wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did I say or imply anything about the race of the immigrants?!

"a flux of African immigrants who in turn have families with 6 to 10 kids. And insignificant new housing. But they choose to bother tourists because it's cool." Would you have preferred "xenophobic", "nativist", or "bigoted" instead? No non-Moroccan African countries were even on that list of immigrant populations in Catalonia. I checked with https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racismo_cultural and indeed even in Spanish "…

Check out the user author of those comments. You are replying to a different person. I did not write those words.

Re: Mass tourism protesters squirt water at Barcelona tourists

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Post by nickpp »

aaomidi wrote: post #113
nickpp wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did I say or imply anything about the race of the immigrants?!

Dog whistles are dog whistles buddy.

He’s replying to a different person, I did not write the words he’s quoted.

Re: Mass tourism protesters squirt water at Barcelona tourists

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Post by allarm »

viridian wrote: post #90
sorwin wrote: post #32

Sounds like these protestors should never go on vacation anywhere else either. Stay in your home city your entire life.

In my experience, most people who work in tourist destinations can't afford to travel for vacation. Do you think the average Costarricense or Resident of Cancun is taking yearly trips abroad on a wage of under $5/hour?

When I was making about $5/h I was _able to afford_ trips in my home country and sometimes even _abroad_. Can you imagine that?

Re: Mass tourism protesters squirt water at Barcelona tourists

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Post by eesmith »

nickpp wrote: post #114
eesmith wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"a flux of African immigrants who in turn have families with 6 to 10 kids. And insignificant new housing. But they choose to bother tourists because it's cool." Would you have preferred "xenophobic", "nativist", or "bigoted" instead? No non-Moroccan African countries were even on that list of immigrant populations in Catalonia. I checked with https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racismo_cultural and indeed even in Spanish "…

Check out the user author of those comments. You are replying to a different person. I did not write those words.

Indeed.

So why are you making irrelevant comments which imply you support a racist?

Re: Mass tourism protesters squirt water at Barcelona tourists

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Post by nickpp »

eesmith wrote: post #117
nickpp wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out the user author of those comments. You are replying to a different person. I did not write those words.

Indeed. So why are you making irrelevant comments which imply you support a racist?

Because immigration does impact housing, no matter the races involved. The questions is: why are you bringing race into this?

Re: Mass tourism protesters squirt water at Barcelona tourists

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Post by eesmith »

nickpp wrote: post #118
eesmith wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. So why are you making irrelevant comments which imply you support a racist?

Because immigration does impact housing, no matter the races involved. The questions is: why are you bringing race into this?

Because I was responding to a specific racist claim that certain African immigrants had a much higher impact on the housing problems in Barcelona than the increase in tourism, supposedly backed by numbers, but in fact empty lies.

Re: Mass tourism protesters squirt water at Barcelona tourists

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Post by luzojeda »

hindsightbias wrote: post #74
luzojeda wrote: post #39

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I find weird why this is being downvoted comparing to some Airbnb related comments on a same situation 3 years ago but in Amsterdam: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28903530

People are less and less considering themselves as part of the problem.

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