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Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Post by CrazyStat »

richrichie wrote: post #108
richrichie wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is getting more and more apparent that BLS has been cooking jobs numbers.

I don’t understand the downvotes. Chairman of the federal reserve stated that jobs are overstated. https://www.federalreserve.gov/mediacenter/files/FOMCprescon...

Here’s what the chairman of the federal reserve actually stated about payroll numbers:

> there’s an argument that they may be a bit overstated

Not one, not two, but three qualifiers[1] that you left out of your retelling.

[1] “there’s an argument,” “may be,” and “a bit”

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Post by kristianp »

thekevan wrote: post #92

"...so the only way to make this diagram not look ridiculous would be to use a logarithmic scale...as I have just realized some minutes earlier. Instead I’ve spent two hours to build a bubble-chart in 300 lines of code with three.js" Been there. Hackers will do what hackers will do.

So funny to see the results presented as animated circles! But really good too. I guess it presents the data as sqrroot(x).

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Post by zitterbewegung »

bobbywilson0 wrote: post #64

Cool analysis with GPT-4o! I was doing some messing around with the same dataset recently around the "Who is Hiring" and "Who wants to be hired". Although I was just using pandas and spacy. (I was job supply and demand with the US FED interest rates here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/bobbywilson0/hn-whos-hirin... ) I can actually see how nice it would be for an llm to be able to disambiguate 'go' and 'rust'. How…

This seems to have a similar problem in the Apple notes calculator where items that you set to as a variable in the new calculator mode can’t have spaces or any other delimiters.

The training data or some kind of enrichment of the data would have to make the systems understand node.js and nodejs are the same just like on the new notes calculator Apple-sauce = $2.50 * 8 makes the first statement a variable.

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Post by krick »

ilaksh wrote: post #104
krick wrote: post #100

I'm more interested in technical side of this, but I'm not seeing any links to GitHub with the source code of this project. Anyway, I have a tangential question, and this is the first time I see langchain, so may be a stupid one. The point is the vendor-API seems to be far less uniform than what I'd expect from a framework like this. I'm wondering, why cannot[0] this be done with Ollama? Isn't it ultimately just syst…

You really don't have to use langchain. I usually don't except on a few occasions I used some document parsing submodule. The APIs between different providers are actually pretty similar, largely close to the OpenAI API. The reason to use a paid service is because the models are superior to the open source ones and definitely a lot better than what you can run locally. It depends on the task though. For this task, I…

Well, I mean, it appears langchain just technically doesn't support structured response for Ollama (according to the link above). But, as I've said, I have absolutely no idea what all this middle-layer stuff actually does and what may be the reason why different vendors have different integration capabilities in this regard.

I'm totally new (and maybe somewhat late) to the domain, literally just tried right now to automate a fairly simple task (extracting/guessing book author + title in nice uniform format from a badly abbreviated/transliterated and incomplete filename) using plain ollama HTTP-API (with llama3 as a model), but didn't have much success with that (it tries to chat with me in its responses, instead of strictly following my instructions). I think, my prompts must be the problem, and I hoped to try the langchain, since it somehow seems to abstract the problem, but saw that it isn't supported for a workflow the OP used. But since this is a field where I'm really totally new, I suppose I also may be making some more general mistake, like using a model that cannot be used for this task at all. How would I know, they all look the same to me…

Ollama project itself is fairly stingy with explanations. Doubtfully there are many people out there trying to automate an answer to the "Why is the sky blue?" question.

So, I wonder, maybe somebody knows a more digestible tutorial somewhere, explaining this stuff from the ground up?

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Post by kaycey2022 »

omoikane wrote: post #21

> https://tamerc.com/posts/ask-hn-who-is-hiring/#what-javascri... "Node.js" and "NodeJS" are drawn as separate spheres, is that intentional? Similarly for "Vue.js" and "VueJS". (Maybe the same for "Angular" vs "AngularJS" too, although the former might be referring to Angular TypeScript).

I saw express and express.js in the bubble chart

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Post by krick »

hluska wrote: post #109
krick wrote: post #100

I'm more interested in technical side of this, but I'm not seeing any links to GitHub with the source code of this project. Anyway, I have a tangential question, and this is the first time I see langchain, so may be a stupid one. The point is the vendor-API seems to be far less uniform than what I'd expect from a framework like this. I'm wondering, why cannot[0] this be done with Ollama? Isn't it ultimately just syst…

This won’t directly answer your question, but it hit the front page here a while ago and I think you may enjoy it: https://www.octomind.dev/blog/why-we-no-longer-use-langchain...

Thanks. Indeed, it doesn't directly answer my question. For one, the author seems to be failing the "Chesterton's fence" test here: it doesn't even try to answer what langchain is supposed to be good at, but ends up being bad. It just plainly says it's bad, that's all.

And, as stated, I also don't know the answer to that question, so this is kinda one of the primary concerns here. I mean, one possible answer seems pretty obvious to me: it would be better to keep your app vendor-agnostic (to be able to switch from OpenAI to Anthropic with 1 ENV var) if at all possible. Neither of articles and doc-pages I've read in the past few hours tries to answer to what extent this is possible and why, and if it even is supposed to be a real selling-point of langchain. TBH, I still have no idea what the main selling point even is.

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Post by benreesman »

If Tamer is reading this, I know of opportunities in NYC for sharp ML people. Feel free to drop me a line at b7r6@b7r6.net and I’ll be more than happy to make an introduction or two.

NYC clearly doesn’t have the level of activity in this area that the Bay does, but there’s a scene. LeCun and the NYU crowd and the big FAIR footprint create a certain gravity. There’s stuff going on :)

Re: Insights from over 10,000 comments on "Ask HN: Who Is Hiring" using GPT-4o

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Post by efs24 »

zakki wrote: post #88
epolanski wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had few interactions with HN crowd as I've posted my availability for consulting/freelancing and I feel like I don't like the bias. People needing freelancers for few weeks/months to complete projects where the requirements are glueing the usual APIs and solving the usual Safari bugs asking me Leetcode questions are out of their mind. I am not applying for a full time position, I'm not a cofounder that is going…

Mind to share the discord server/link?

I’m currently working with tamagui. I interact with their discord a lot, helping people troubleshoot or asking questions. I’ve gotten a few offers to consult through that alone.

Pick a framework or library, get involved.

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