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Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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If you think for more than a few seconds on the matter, you quickly realise that intellectual property is a moral necessity, because intellectual expropriation (which is what you are really talking about) would destroy a major incentive for positive contributions to society. Everything political is rooted in morality, and while it is easy to point out political challenges on the topic, intellectual property is ethica…

Most creators work for hire and the company owns the IP. Anecdote: I can't remember the song written on a bus and sold to the record company for $250 to keep food on the table that has earnt billions for Warner, Sony, or Universal Music. Nothing more for the creator. Big company stealing from another big company to benefit the rest of us? Seems like fair use. Nothing to do with creators. That incentive was meant to b…

> sold to the record company for $250

And without any form of copyright it would have gone "hey $RECORD_COMPANY here's this cool jingle I made" and they'd say "yeah we think so too, we'll use that and compensate you $0."

Way better.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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I'm a native English (Canadian) speaker and, given this context, would never pronounce "morph-y" as "morph why" (if that pronunciation was intended I'd capitalize the Y and probably not hyphenate it, "Morph Y"). Indeed, sometimes I'll use the -y construction when I'm inventing an adjective from a noun like this, especially if omitting it looks "wrong" to me because it's an invented word (not sure if I would've for "m…

> I'm a native English (Canadian) speaker and, given this context, would never pronounce "morph-y" as "morph why" (if that pronunciation was intended I'd capitalize the Y and probably not hyphenate it, "Morph Y"). Words conjoined with hyphens are always pronounced separately in normal usage -- the only exception I can think of is the special use case of hyphens representing continuations of a single word across a lin…

So, this morning I happened to be reading a crossword blog - written by an English professor - and, reflecting on this conversation, thought, "Jeez, I'll bet Rex Parker uses the -y construct." So I scrolled back a few pages in his archives, and sure enough, earlier this month he described something as "bro-y" [0].

In case you still feel like you're more of an authority on whether this is acceptable in colloquial English than me (a Canadian native Engish speaker), OP (who - I peeked at their profile - appears to be a British native English speaker), or an American professor of English:

I also noticed, while scrolling through Rex's archives, that the Times itself had used the "-y" in the crossword. See the cited clue on 36A on June 18 [1], which describes something as "sting-y" - not to be confused with "stingy". Good enough for The Gray Lady, good enough for me.

At this point, I think - if it's still causing you to struggle with reading comprehension - you need to accept that it's a construct in common usage and spend some time practicing until you start to feel comfortable with it. Sorry, I know it's inconsistent; English is known for having quite a few quirks that you just need to get used to.

[0] https://rexwordpuzzle.blogspot.com/2024/06/strong-as-ox-in-s...

[1] https://rexwordpuzzle.blogspot.com/2024/06/extremely-damaged...

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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You can argue divine right of kings or white supremacy from political necessity. Some kind of systems to allocate scarce resources is needed. This doesn't have to be property. Access to e.g. the moon and earth's orbits and international waters and polar regions have systems of allocation, but they are not property.

> You can argue divine right of kings or white supremacy from political necessity. Those arguments can be incorrect without entailing all arguments from political necessity are false. I can incorrectly argue a justification of the flat earth theory from physics - but that would discredit my own intellect rather than the subject of physics. > Some kind of systems to allocate scarce resources is needed. This doesn't ha…

> Those arguments can be incorrect without entailing all arguments from political necessity are false.

> I can incorrectly argue a justification of the flat earth theory from physics - but that would discredit my own intellect rather than the subject of physics.

Do you mean the right to (certain very specific form of) property is somehow an empirically shown fact like the geometry of the earth?

Am I right in guessing that you have inclination towards praxeology?

> I agree not everything has to be property, but some things must.

Why do some things must? Because it leads to more desirable consequences than other options, or because it is some metaphysical truth you're somehow privy to?

The first kind of argument is fine, the latter is just blunt rhetorics. I don't see why the former should be spoiled with the latter.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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post #41

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If you think for more than a few seconds on the matter, you quickly realise that intellectual property is a moral necessity, because intellectual expropriation (which is what you are really talking about) would destroy a major incentive for positive contributions to society. Everything political is rooted in morality, and while it is easy to point out political challenges on the topic, intellectual property is ethica…

Most creators work for hire and the company owns the IP. Anecdote: I can't remember the song written on a bus and sold to the record company for $250 to keep food on the table that has earnt billions for Warner, Sony, or Universal Music. Nothing more for the creator. Big company stealing from another big company to benefit the rest of us? Seems like fair use. Nothing to do with creators. That incentive was meant to b…

A lot of creators, at least in music, are not even work for hire, but in a form of indentured servitude.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Just run all key frames through stable diffusion and it should be quite good.

I don't think there's such a thing as key frames here, just frames. And if you run SD through every frame, the output will be janky because SD doesn't know about temporal coherence.

As soon as it's an MP4 it will have key frames all right. You could add AI upscaling to your encoder. People are making fun of "Just", but I believe I could take apart ffmpeg to add this feature (PoC) in two weeks or less. Provide somebody pays for my labor and for the HW.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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These look like shit. Yeah I guess it's kinda cool you can make them with nothing but text but I dunno man, I could think of a dozen ways to make all of these shots that wouldn't have the sides of every object threatening to melt in the next frame. More difficult and cost more, I mean yeah, but again, then it won't look like a computer is hallucinating your scenes while also tripping on mushrooms. If this is indeed t…

> If this is indeed the "future of making movies," I dunno, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I have no interest in watching anything made this way.

I'm still burned out on "regular" CG in movies. I'd be much more excited about a (hypothetical) return to practical effects than a push even further into computer imagery.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Does DMCA cover trademarks? I think it might only be for copyright.

They can probably sue GitHub then (their current hoster of their repo), the traditional way? Though actually I imagine GH would just close the repo before it comes to that, because it looks like a pretty clear case. I guess it's also possible OpenAI doesn't care about this.

Yeah I'd imagine that GH has a way to report trademark abuse, or yes of course you can get lawyers involved. Since it's international that might get annoying unless you're fine just getting it off of GitHub and other hosts you can easily reach.

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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At some point we should stop treating our mothers as infants. It doesnt matter that they didn't grow up with the internet, they should adapt , despite their age. It has happened before and will happen again. (it makes me mad that similar arguments are often brought when discussing mobile phones' walled garden policies)

old people don't struggle with tech because they didn't grow up with it well, they kinda do, but here's the thing when you're old, all the tech that's out will be alien to you I'm not even middle aged, I'm a tech enthusiast, and nonetheless it is happening to me already. new UI and new tools all happening too fast to keep up we should be trying to do something about this for ourselves, not just for our mothers

Sure, but if it s dangerous to you, then maybe you shouldn't be using it - at all. We trust older people to vote, they should do it in good judgement and this includes consideration of where they get their information

Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs

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Which is a positive turn of events. Intellectual property as a concept needs to go.

It's a one-way street with AI companies though, they are against IP protection for training data but support IP protection for the product of that training. Read the TOS/license of nearly any big model and it's clear the creator considers it and its output to be their IP and they will fight to restrict how you can use it for commercial purposes or training competing models, because those being a free-for-all would ge…

Unless the entity they're taking from can defend themselves in court. Just ask Copilot to generate an image in the style of AI hater Tim Burton and you'll get a ToS wrong-think violation. So really it is just for taking from small fries.
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