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iDOS 3 Rejected by Apple

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Re: iDOS 3 Rejected by Apple

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Post by throwaway2037 »

skissane wrote: post #110
throwaway2037 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Australia also has a consumer protection bureau. It does exactly the same when you complain -- lights a fire under the ass of the maker. There are so many posts from Ozzies here about being "saved" by that bureau from a bad product.

> Australia also has a consumer protection bureau Australia does have relatively strong consumer protection laws. There is both a federal agency that does consumer protection and competition law (the ACCC, roughly equivalent to the US FTC) and also each state has an agency (my state’s is called Fair Trading NSW) > There are so many posts from Ozzies Random aside, I’d never thought about it before but it’s true - as s…

Hat tip about "Ozzies". I'll make a note!

Re: iDOS 3 Rejected by Apple

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Post by scarface_74 »

frankvdwaal wrote: post #105
scarface_74 wrote: post #99

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So you’re okay with a feature not existing for customers who want because the government deigns that they shouldn’t have it? You really want the government taking away your agency to make your own choices?

I for one am absolutely against features not existing for customers who want it just because the Apple deigns that they shouldn’t have it. I don't want Apple to take away my agency to make my own choices. Good thing governments are on the side of the consumer at least, right?

Apple thought the risk of including it was too high because of the DMA.

Users in the US and the rest of the world do have it.

And we talking about the same EU government that every other year tries to make it a law that there must be a backdoor in messaging platforms?

Re: iDOS 3 Rejected by Apple

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Post by curiousdeadcat »

mortenjorck wrote: post #7

Original post is from April, but there is an update at the bottom from June: > Got a call from Apple after 2 months. They have decided that iDOS is not a retro game console, so the new rule is not applicable. They suggested I make changes and resubmit for review, but when I asked what changes I should make to be compliant, they had no idea, nor when I asked what a retro game console is. We need a DMA over here yester…

Yeah, it's crazy there's no other options, like a platform that openly allows sideloading. Its terrible that were all forced to buy Apple products, especially when this behavior from them is just so surprising.

/s in case.

Re: iDOS 3 Rejected by Apple

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Post by curiousdeadcat »

skissane wrote: post #30
ed_mercer wrote: post #16

Submitting apps to the App Store is one of the more frustrating things in life. Reviewers are lazy, random and don’t do any homework. You roll a dice and hope you don’t have any issues. Couple that with a bloated Xcode that still hasn’t learned anything from VS Code, long compile times, long processing times, bullshit compliance checkboxes and the time-consuming filling out of information of what your app is all abou…

What’s needed is for regulators to step in. Create an independent government-run tribunal to which app store review decisions can be appealed by the developers, and legally mandate Apple/Google/etc to obey its rulings. Maybe the EU will do it. If the EU mandated it other jurisdictions would likely follow. Even if they didn’t, you’d likely just be able to incorporate an EU subsidiary, then resubmit the app in the subs…

HN. Very free market. Except Apple. The cognitive dissonance, and entitlement is crazy.

Even funnier after years of "Apple knows best". God forbid anyone buy an Android phone. No, apparently folks would rather force their abuser to be slightly nicer and then stay in that toxic relationship.

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Post by talldayo »

scarface_74 wrote: post #104
immibis wrote: post #103

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I'm okay with bad things not existing and I'm okay with Apple throwing a tantrum and going home because the government says it can't do bad things. It can miss out on all that juicy revenue if it wants to, and the world will be better for it.

So Apple Intelligence “is a bad thing” because from day one they don’t have interoperability? Does that serve customers in the EU better? What juicy revenue do you think they were going to get from iPhone mirroring to the Mac? And the EU as a whole is less than 10% of their revenue?

> So Apple Intelligence “is a bad thing” because from day one they don’t have interoperability? Does that serve customers in the EU better?

Yes

Re: iDOS 3 Rejected by Apple

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Post by talldayo »

scarface_74 wrote: post #112
frankvdwaal wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I for one am absolutely against features not existing for customers who want it just because the Apple deigns that they shouldn’t have it. I don't want Apple to take away my agency to make my own choices. Good thing governments are on the side of the consumer at least, right?

Apple thought the risk of including it was too high because of the DMA. Users in the US and the rest of the world do have it. And we talking about the same EU government that every other year tries to make it a law that there must be a backdoor in messaging platforms?

> And we talking about the same EU government that every other year tries to make it a law that there must be a backdoor in messaging platforms?

And the same Apple that puts them there: https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754

But hey, at least Apple is more principled than those filthy, corrupt and privacy destroying governments. They would never kowtow to a higher power, our stout and beloved Apple.

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