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Given that GenAI is a statistical approach from which intelligence does not emerge as ample experience proves, does this new company plan to take a more human approach to simulating intelligence instead?

Glibly, I’d also love your definition of the education system writ large.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, what does it matter. We're many lifetimes away from anything. These people are trying to define concepts that don't apply to us or what we're currently capable of. AI safety / AGI anything is just a form of tech philosophy at this point and this is all academic grift just with mainstream attention and backing.

This goes massively against the consensus of experts in this field. The modal AI researcher believes that "high-level machine intelligence", roughly AGI, will be achieved by 2047, per the survey below. Given the rapid pace of development in this field, it's likely that timelines would be shorter if this were asked today. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2024/1/10/24032987/ai-imp...

Reminds me of what they've always been saying about nuclear fusion.

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#114
Remember when OpenAI was focusing on building "open" AI? This is a cool mission statement but it doesn't mean anything right now. Everyone loves a minimalist HTML website and guarantees of safety but who knows what this is actually going to shake down to be.

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At this point, all the computing power is concentrated among various companies such as Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, Tesla, etc. It seems to me it would be much safer and more intelligent to create a massive model and distribute the benefits among everyone. Why not use a P2P approach?

In my area, internet and energy are insanely expensive and that means I'm not at all willing to share my precious bandwidth or compute just to subsidize someone generating Rule 34 porn of their favorite anime character. I don't seed torrents for the same reason. If I lived in South Korea or somewhere that bandwidth was dirt cheap, then maybe.

There is a way to achieve load balancing, safety, and distribution effectively. The models used by Airbnb, Uber, and Spotify have proven to be generally successful. Peer-to-peer (P2P) technology is the future; even in China, people are streaming videos using this technology, and it works seamlessly. I envision a future where everyone joins the AI revolution with an iPhone, with both training and inference distributed in a P2P manner. I wonder why no one has done this yet.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

the first step of safe superintelligence is to abolish capitalism

Why does everything have to do with capitalism nowadays? Racism, unsafe roads, hunger, bad weather, good weather, stubbing toes on furniture, etc. Don't believe me? See https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... Are there any non-capitalist utopias out there without any problems like this?

This is literally a discussion on allocation of capital, it's not a reach to say that capitalism might be involved.

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Glad to see Ilya is back in a position to contribute to advancing AI. I wonder how they are going to manage to pay the kinds of compensation packages that truly gifted AI researchers can make now from other companies that are more commercially oriented. Perhaps they can find people who are ideologically driven and/or are already financially independent. It's also hard to see how they will be able to access enough com…

Are you seriously asking how the most talented AI researcher of the last decade will be able to recruit other researchers? Ilya saw the potential of deep learning way before other machine learning academics.

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Glad to see Ilya is back in a position to contribute to advancing AI. I wonder how they are going to manage to pay the kinds of compensation packages that truly gifted AI researchers can make now from other companies that are more commercially oriented. Perhaps they can find people who are ideologically driven and/or are already financially independent. It's also hard to see how they will be able to access enough com…

> compensation packages that truly gifted AI researchers can make now I guess it depends on your definition of "truly gifted" but, working in this space, I've found that there is very little correlation between comp and quality of AI research. There's absolutely some brilliant people working for big names and making serious money, there's also plenty of really talented people working for smaller startups doing incred…

Definitely true of even normal software engineering; my experience has been the opposite of expectations, that TC-creep has infected the industry to an irreparable degree and the most talented people I've ever worked around or with are in boring, medium-sized enterprises in the midwest US or australia, you'll probably never hear of them, and every big tech company would absolutely love to hire them but just can't figure out the interview process to weed them apart from the TC grifters.

TC is actually totally uncorrelated with the quality of talent you can hire, beyond some low number that pretty much any funded startup could pay. Businesses hate to hear this, because money is easy to turn the dial up on; but most have no idea how to turn the dial up on what really matters to high talent individuals. Fortunately, I doubt Ilya will have any problem with that.

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