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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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It's native and not Electron shit?

What's wrong with Electron?

Electron apps are usually (not always necessarily) sluggish and don’t support native UI paradigms or keyboard shortcuts or navigation. The Bitwarden desktop app is one of the bad ones.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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post #106

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My approach has been to move all of the critical secrets out of the vendor device and embed it in a keyboard. It then works with anything that accepts a keyboard.. I'll be releasing this as open source (hardware & software) soon: https://www.anomie.tech/products/anigma/ce/

How far out is the phone peripheral?

Sadly, proly not till next year. I'm funding this myself and hardware is hard. Embedding it into a case has a whole lotta mechanical engineering challenges as well.

The desktop and tablet version will be released this year though.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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So… this new app does most of what the depreciated “Keychain” app did, except now it’s got a iOS-looking UI. Huzzah, I guess, the “passwords” section in the iOS-restyled system prefs sure wasn’t substituting for Keychain for me. Passwords doesn’t appear to handle secure notes, though, and I still have a few of those, too. I still really hate the iOS-restyled system prefs. Tiny unresizable text, a long vertical scroll…

I noticed a "Notes" section in password items. So, I guess in theory you could utilize those. But my biggest one is wanting to store secure files. Think copies of a drivers license, signed documents or various certs and keys. That's not being covered here either for me sadly. It's not a super common situation for me so I can probably find an alternative app for that purpose. Edit: Also for notes, I'd just password pr…

For iOS & Mac https://thevault-app.com does exactly that for me. Storing PDFs, or just plain images of passport, drivers license etc (in addition to passwords). It’s a bit on the technical site (eg, also has cmd: prefix for terminal commands etc)

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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I'll be trying this out, but moving me from Bitwarden will prove quite a feat - especially since it was the best option for me after trying over 10 password managers while I was still window shopping for one.

I’m in the same boat. I really enjoy Bitwarden but I’m willing to give this a try to see if it’s as good as it could be

I will need a tool to transfer over all the pws, doing that manually is a non starter

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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My annoyance with Keychain has been that items kind of appear there as I type in a username and password on the web. Feels rather ephemeral, like old "saved passwords" in Internet Explorer or whatever. Feels like I'm one browser cookie reset away from losing everything.

Whereas with 1Password I use a separate app to CREATE a new Login file for an app/website/anything. I can save that file with as much or a little information filled out as desired. Can create arbitrary info files for Passports, library membership cards, etc. I know the information for each is forever stored exactly as I created it, always syncing, never overwritten when I type in a different password and accidentally hit "save" in a webform.

I hope the new Apple Passwords app is more like the later; if so I would switch.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's native and not Electron shit?

What's wrong with Electron?

Disk space for one. The Bitwarden macOS application is around 390 MB. For comparison, Firefox is 388 MB. They're usually much worse from a CPU and RAM perspective too.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. Apple devices already basically have a password manager, the main reason more people don't use it it is because it doesnt also work on android or windows, not because it's not a standalone app called Passwords.

My approach has been to move it out of the vendor OS entirely and embedd it in the keyboard. I'll be releasing this as open source (hardware & software) soon: https://www.anomie.tech/products/anigma/ce/

Any connection to what bunnie is doing with precursor?

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

#120

Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. Apple devices already basically have a password manager, the main reason more people don't use it it is because it doesnt also work on android or windows, not because it's not a standalone app called Passwords.

> Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform.

As mentioned in another news article on the topic:

> It also syncs with PCs via the iCloud for Windows app.

* https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/10/24175505/apple-password-a...

and in the keynote itself:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeOiIDNNek&t=59m32s

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