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Scientists should use AI as a tool, not an oracle

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Re: Scientists should use AI as a tool, not an oracle

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look, it's a bit late here so I don't really have time to fully refute your sophisticated argument. But let me ask you this: if AI is not curve fitting, what is it then?

I'm objecting to the implication that if we start referring to it as curve fitting rather than AI, then thinking about it becomes easier and it becomes less likely that we will make a huge collective mistake in thinking about it. I'm not saying there aren't a few possible mistakes that do become less likely if we switch to "curve fitting, but I suspect that it does not matter much either way on the most serious mista…

I think it would alter the entire safety discussion that was started.

Let's say a company creates an automated system based on a curve fitting algorithm. Then things go wrong. Now it is quite easy to say the company is responsible for any damage and must pay for the rectification.

When we say an AI is deployed and things go wrong, we have a sci-fi movie and responsibility is somehow magically moved away from the company that deployed the algorithm.

To me it feels that "AI" as a term is a clever marketing term that companies will use to deflect responsibility. And I think it is one of the reasons why Open AI, Musk and others pushed this AI safety non-sense.

The aim of calling it "curve fitting" or something similar would be to take the magic out of it so the broader public doesn't get confused. I think that's worthwhile.

Re: Scientists should use AI as a tool, not an oracle

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> Unfortunately, most scientific fields have succumbed to AI hype, leading to a suspension of common sense. For example, a line of research in political science claimed to predict the onset of civil war with an accuracy2 of well over 90%, a number that should sound facially impossible. (It turned out to be leakage, which is what got us interested in this whole line of research.) This coupled with people acting on its…

"accuracy2" sigh - the 2 is a superscript to a footnote and not a domain specific term. "facially impossible" ... does that really riff on "on the face of it", or is it farcically misspelt? Garbage in, garbage out 8)

Human recall failure. Probably wanted "seemingly", "apparently", or even "ostensibly", but who's got time for all that when the publish button's right there.
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