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Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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I imagine smell and touch are less valuable when driving a vehicle.

Touch is really important: it's how you can tell if your vehicle is sliding. You can feel the various forces of the vehicle's motion through touch.

Also more basic things like whether your feet are touching the pedals, that you're gripping the steering wheel at all, and how much force those things are taking.

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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It feels to me like another one of Elon's stubborn whims. Sometimes these result in great innovations, like Tesla's giant car part 'gigacasting'. Other times, they result in deciding to rename Twitter "X" and forcing a team of engineers to spend over a year combing meticulously through the codebase to remove all references to "twitter.com"

This reminds me of Steve Jobs and his absolute refusal to let flash run on the iPhone. I think we're better now for that, but we had a few rough years for that.

Maybe, or maybe it's like his refusal to allow apps to force everything to be a web app, and Tesla will realize they are better off just having more sensors and more data

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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I think they falsely believe human only needs one sense to navigate: sight. But we actually use our hearing, smell, and touch too. So, multiple type sensors is actually better than only one.

I imagine smell and touch are less valuable when driving a vehicle.

Touch is extremely important when driving a vehicle. You won't know which controls you're using and how much force you're exerting upon your pedals otherwise.

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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I imagine smell and touch are less valuable when driving a vehicle.

Smell lets me know when it’s time to roll down the window.

also, depending on the area or the AQHI, when to Roll it back up

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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That article states that they are retracting to their previous method of gigacasting. The one that other carmakers are starting to use too, inspired by Tesla.

It actually says that they were attempting to gigacast their new vehicle as a single piece rather than three pieces, but that proved difficult so they are going back to gigacasting three separate pieces. But your point stands: they are still gigacasting, just for now they are not doing the very ambitious "gigacast in a single bound" plan.

Probably related to them dumping the model 2 project.

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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That article states that they are retracting to their previous method of gigacasting. The one that other carmakers are starting to use too, inspired by Tesla.

It actually says that they were attempting to gigacast their new vehicle as a single piece rather than three pieces, but that proved difficult so they are going back to gigacasting three separate pieces. But your point stands: they are still gigacasting, just for now they are not doing the very ambitious "gigacast in a single bound" plan.

"Elons whim that resulted in great innovation" as ghostcluster put it referred to gigacasting as three pieces, not gigacasting as one.

sho_hn's comment could have been read as gigacasting being a failure. It is not.

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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Regarding the gigacasting: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-...

> Tesla now focusing more on developing self-driving vehicles than on pushing for huge growth in EV sales volume, which many investors had been counting on. Yep, don't count on Tesla for replacing fossil fuel cars. They had a good headstart but hopefully other manufacturers will now take its place to fill growing demand

> Tesla now focusing more on developing self-driving vehicles than on pushing for huge growth in EV sales volume, which many investors had been counting on.

Oh, come on. Yes, Musk announced that Tesla would announce a self-driving car with no steering wheel in August 2024. Of course, he said that in 2016, in 2018, in 2020...[1]

Reality is that Tesla, while signed up for California DMV's autonomous vehicle test program, didn't report any miles driven last year.

[1] https://www.inverse.com/innovation/tesla-robo-taxi-elon-musk...

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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This reminds me of Steve Jobs and his absolute refusal to let flash run on the iPhone. I think we're better now for that, but we had a few rough years for that.

Maybe, or maybe it's like his refusal to allow apps to force everything to be a web app, and Tesla will realize they are better off just having more sensors and more data

Both Steve and Elon made stubborn decisions, some of which benefited and some of which hindered their companies' products.

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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TBH, I hate auto wipers and have always believed them to be a tech solution looking for a problem. Never once have I been in rainy weather and thought "gee, what should I do?". I currently have a car with auto wipers (I'm not sure but I think they use the "standard" infrared sensor to detect rain) and I find them worse than manual, intermittent wipers in every way. I think the biggest problem is that the wipers tend…

This just sounds like you bought a crappy car. There are great implementations of auto wipers available in the wild.

Exactly. This is one of those cases of someone using an extremely crappy implementation of a new technology, and then claiming that all implementations must therefore suck.

My last car (a low-end Mazda, now about 10 years old) had excellent auto-wipers; I never had a complaint about them. The controls were simple, the sensitivity could be easily adjusted, they were great. I never wanted to switch back to manual wipers.

Re: Tesla Auto Wipers: Why They Don't Work and Why There Isn't an Easy Fix

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There are other issues with Tesla's auto wipers. The main one is that, in other cars, you can have the wipers on auto, while still manually increasing or decreasing their speed. So if the wipers aren't going fast enough for you, you can bias the speed upward while maintaining the auto function, and vice-versa. On Teslas you don't have that option; you need to choose between auto and a fixed speed. (My guess is that t…

Using a touch screen to control wiper speed seems insane. In fact, most of what you wrote sounds incredibly unintuitive and frankly stupid. Things like wiper speed need to be brain-dead simple muscle memory controls - and similar in behaviour to other vehicles. I own three (cheap and old) vehicles, and I can easily switch between them and control the wipers even if I haven't driven one for 6+ months. Vehicle control…

When I picked up my new Model 3, about 5 years ago, I headed home and it started raining. I had no idea how to turn the windshield wipers on and was barely able to find a place to stop on the side of the road as I tried to figure it out. I do love the car overall but this certainly wasn't thought through and the auto mode is pretty bad. It's one of those quirks you get used to...
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