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Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by ein0p »

mbonnet wrote: post #106
ein0p wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people like to suffer? Just get a used Lenovo Carbon that’s a few years old, plop Ubuntu on it and do all of that with a proper computer with a larger screen, good keyboard, and no “tricks” whatsoever. And if the internet connection conks out, you can still do whatever you need to do

You're fundamentally misunderstanding the use case. Using an iPad Pro with a small keyboard is a small form factor, often doesn't add to the load in a student's backpack (most of them have iPads for note taking anyway), etc

I specifically mentioned X1 Carbon because it is very light. Not a problem to carry at all, unlike eg a MacBook.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

ein0p wrote: post #111
mbonnet wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're fundamentally misunderstanding the use case. Using an iPad Pro with a small keyboard is a small form factor, often doesn't add to the load in a student's backpack (most of them have iPads for note taking anyway), etc

I specifically mentioned X1 Carbon because it is very light. Not a problem to carry at all, unlike eg a MacBook.

They're not comparing it to a MacBook, though, they're comparing it to an iPad Pro.

We could go through the whole dance of figuring out which weighs more and what does what with whom and where, but I think it's probably easier to say "different people have different priorities". If what you want is a lightweight Linux laptop, the iPad is never going to give that to you. If what you want is a tablet that you can connect a keyboard to when you want, an X1 Carbon is never going to give you that. And if that is what you want, it's nice that the iPad can run a great ssh/mosh client that's capable of running Visual Studio Code in the cloud.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by rubslopes »

dlivingston wrote: post #96
AJRF wrote: post #10

Hate to be that guy, but Samsung DeX is a much closer vision to a "Mobile device that doubles as a usable computer" than an iPad has proven to be since it launched 14 years ago. Especially if you get one of the Z Fold devices. It's a phone, a small tablet and a pluggable computer - all in one. Has had great terminal support for the past decade through Termux and can even run Emacs!

Do people use DeX as an all-in-one (esp. for development)? I played with it for a bit on my wife's phone and it seemed very cool, but I couldn't tell how useful it would be as a daily driver.

I've seen Youtube videos where a dev take his phone, a keyboard and a portable monitor to a café. While my nerd self love the idea, I also think that if you're carrying a monitor and a keyboard you might as well carry a M1 Macbook Air.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by orhmeh09 »

ein0p wrote: post #104
plutoh28 wrote: post #102

Been using this for a while on my 2018 iPad Pro for college. I just SSH into my pc at home and am able to work on all my assignments with neovim. Works well enough to save me from having to buy a laptop since I was able to get this iPad for ~$300 locally on Facebook marketplace. Would recommend to non-power users on a budget (e.g. college students)

Why do people like to suffer? Just get a used Lenovo Carbon that’s a few years old, plop Ubuntu on it and do all of that with a proper computer with a larger screen, good keyboard, and no “tricks” whatsoever. And if the internet connection conks out, you can still do whatever you need to do

Not iPad but on iPhone, I SSH into a Linux machine to edit scripts from bed and submit jobs to AWS or cluster with a sleeping partner beside me. Vim works surprisingly well for editing text in this scenario.

In theory one could even do this from the bathroom without the awkward appearance of walking in there with laptop in arm. Hypothetically. I certainly have not tried this, no sir.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by hamandcheese »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #105
DrammBA wrote: post #97

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> Which web standard or standards are you referring to exactly? To the standard of Safari being considered the new Internet Explorer by the general public, so anything that goes wrong online is automatically Safari's fault

Isn't Chrome closer to IE considering it nearly has unilateral control over web standards? The last hope for web standards is WebKit on iOS. Or, it was. Now that, for better or worse, Apple is being forced to allow other engines on iOS I expect that'll change quickly.

There was a long period of the where IE was far from dominant, but was used in enough places that supporting it was non-optional for many businesses. It was holding the web back.

I think it's that period of IE that people are referring to when they say Safari is the new IE.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by fragmede »

steve1977 wrote: post #79
fragmede wrote: post #42

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Because we want to. Of course the political capital of bunch of nerds isn't enough to make it happen but while the reasoning is different, I can't buy a new car that I can register without seatbelts, so the concept of making things illegal to buy is not entirely foreign. Of course, those are for safety, but I also can't buy a car that won't do at least 55 for the freeway unless I want a golf cart, so suitability for…

> Because we want to. Who is "we"? Apparently not enough people want this. > I can't buy a new car that I can register without seatbelts, so the concept of making things illegal to buy is not entirely foreign. That's a strawman argument. Not having cars without seatbelts has safety implications. A better analogy would be cars which don't allow you to replace the built-in car stereo for example. > so maybe put a tax o…

> Who is "we"

Everybody who wants Xcode on iPads to happen. If you do not want such a thing, I am not talking for you. There may be dozens of us and we don't have the political clout to make it happen, but maybe we can agree that something has been lost here.

Is it still a straw man argument when I explicitly point out that I know it's not the same thing, twice, with the phrases "while the reasoning is different" and "Of course, those are for safety"?

As far as taxing Python for energy inefficiency goes, If it means violating Wirth's Law, I can't say that I'd be entirely against it in the hypothetical because we both know that's never going to happen. It takes longer to open some apps on my iPhone that's a million times faster (though, to be fair, also does a million more things) than it took to open vi on a Linux box in console mode (no X) in the previous century.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by mbirth »

theshrike79 wrote: post #16
nasretdinov wrote: post #4

Blink is also a mosh client, so IMO the combo makes it the best iOS app for a dev/ops :)

Mosh is an essential requirement for any kind of mobile work over ssh, combine it with tmux and iTerm2 tmux integration and you can work on a remote server without even knowing it :D

If you’re using tmux, mosh doesn’t bring much to the table compared to plain SSH. Tmux will keep everything running and you can easily reattach to that session after a reconnect.

Apps like ShellFish even do this completely transparently so you don’t even notice you got disconnected for a second. No need for mosh there.

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by eyelidlessness »

cricketminister wrote: post #103
eyelidlessness wrote: post #88

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Safari does properly support the clipboard. I used it, right here on my phone to copy and paste: > if Safari would care more about web standards Which web standard or standards are you referring to exactly?

Here’s a caniuse that compares the latest (experimental or current whichever is newer) versions of Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera, iOS.[1] Some notable features included everywhere but Safari: - SVG Favicons - Custom protocol handling - asm.js - Resource Prefetch It’s not all bad though. There are features safari has that no one else does: - CSS Filter Functions - CSS Hanging Punctuation - Audio Tracks - Video Tracks…

I see two mentions of the clipboard on that page and they both indicate full support in Safari. They don’t indicate that for all other browsers. What are you trying to say here?

Re: Run VSCode and terminal on any iOS device

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Post by pjmlp »

EtienneK wrote: post #36

Ah, the iPad Pro: One of the most compact and powerful computing devices of all time. But trying to use even a small fraction of that power requires workarounds like this. I bought into the idea of the iPad Pro as a coding device 4 years ago; only to have been left very disappointed. And it seems nothing has really changed (although the M series iPads do at least support full screen external monitors now - mine still…

Pro isn't a synonym for Programming.
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