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Re: Twitter is now attention roulette and ultimately meaningless

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Post by raydev »

mrtksn wrote: post #62

My feed looks like this: 1) "Facebook style" post are proliferating, that is memes from last year and images/videos from 5 years ago 2) Too many "cookie cutter" posts, that is variation of formats like "100 million people are using AI but %99 are using it wrong" 3) Propaganda accounts pushing narratives, that is something like "before everything was great, now everything is bad. what changed?", then with flood of rep…

> 2) Too many "cookie cutter" posts, that is variation of formats like "100 million people are using AI but %99 are using it wrong"

> 5) Tesla FSD just saved lives, the real danger are the human drivers

> 6) Get rich fast schemes and courses that are supposed to give you passive income to retire early.

Hopefully this helps others, because I see these complaints often about Twitter (and about Reddit too, shocking number of tech-minded people just read the front page and get mad at it!).

These types of posts fall under what I call the "self-improvement bait" umbrella, including the Tesla accounts here, since they are so weird and monomaniacal about Tesla and $TSLA and Elon.

Several months ago I simply started blocking anyone who posts using their strange marketing cadence, because they're all the same really. They are so easy to spot within 4 or 5 words.

I cannot express just how much my feed improved after doing this. Of course, new accounts trying to bandwagon on this trend do pop up, but again, just block them and move on.

Re: Twitter is now attention roulette and ultimately meaningless

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Post by davidguetta »

prmoustache wrote: post #100
davidguetta wrote: post #94

Twitter is still the only.place you can have user uploaded videos for events such as the border crisis, the ongoing wars. Its easy to criticize the attention traps without seeing the benefits

I would say it has now been supplanted by TikTok. French gov just banned TikTok a few days ago in Kanaky (called New Caledonia under french imperial colonialism) to try to limit communication between insurgents in its colony.

Lol "colony" there were literally 3 referendums and they said 3 times they wanted to stay feench but ok.

The kanaks are nothing more than racists against foreigners and a government that has been way over the top in respecting their indigenous customs and right to self determination

Please educate yourself before spouting russian propaganda.

Re: Twitter is now attention roulette and ultimately meaningless

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Post by panosfilianos »

coldtrait wrote: post #106
panosfilianos wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have put some thought into this and my stack includes an assortment of Chrome extensions to observe the behavior I like. - Hide Youtube Shorts - Hide Youtube Watched - uBlock Filter to remove Upcoming videos from the subscription page - Unhook with most options turned on I do the same for Twitter with the Just Arrived extension tweaked from gh.

> Just Arrived extension tweaked This one? https://github.com/tecoholic/Just-Arrived What about mobile? I find myself scrolling on my phone a lot and I use a modded app because Android, thankfully. I feel like the best solution is to just delete the app, ultimately.

Yes, this one. No solution for mobile.

Re: Twitter is now attention roulette and ultimately meaningless

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Post by prmoustache »

davidguetta wrote: post #112
prmoustache wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say it has now been supplanted by TikTok. French gov just banned TikTok a few days ago in Kanaky (called New Caledonia under french imperial colonialism) to try to limit communication between insurgents in its colony.

Lol "colony" there were literally 3 referendums and they said 3 times they wanted to stay feench but ok. The kanaks are nothing more than racists against foreigners and a government that has been way over the top in respecting their indigenous customs and right to self determination Please educate yourself before spouting russian propaganda.

It is not russian propaganda: https://www.un.org/dppa/decolonization/en/nsgt/new-caledonia

By the way your are contradicting yourself;

If as you say the issue are kanaks being racists against foreigners, that means the non kanak french people living there are indeed foreigners. You are only confirming they are colons.

I suggest you give a look at the "strip tease" TV program of 1998 (not so long ago) were you could see french colons treating their kanaks "employees" as slaves and insulting them just for being indigenous, then try repeating me again that the problem are kanaks being racists.

Re: Twitter is now attention roulette and ultimately meaningless

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Post by tjpnz »

welder wrote: post #88
tjpnz wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your motivation for building this when alternatives like Mastodon already exist?

Mine requires karma on other networks, like HN, before users can post. It reduces spam and fake accounts. However, u can still post anonymously then choose to reveal your username later anytime. Posts support Markdown. It also integrates with the tools I use, for example if you post a link to a blog and that blog happens to have been on HN too then it shows the HN icon with the HN post points and a link to the HN com…

There are elements here which might be more useful to a broader audience in the form of a browser plugin. Is this something you've considered?

Re: Twitter is now attention roulette and ultimately meaningless

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Post by davidguetta »

prmoustache wrote: post #115
davidguetta wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol "colony" there were literally 3 referendums and they said 3 times they wanted to stay feench but ok. The kanaks are nothing more than racists against foreigners and a government that has been way over the top in respecting their indigenous customs and right to self determination Please educate yourself before spouting russian propaganda.

It is not russian propaganda: https://www.un.org/dppa/decolonization/en/nsgt/new-caledonia By the way your are contradicting yourself; If as you say the issue are kanaks being racists against foreigners, that means the non kanak french people living there are indeed foreigners. You are only confirming they are colons. I suggest you give a look at the "strip tease" TV program of 1998 (not so long ago) were you could s…

> If as you say the issue are kanaks being racists against foreigners, that means the non kanak french people living there are indeed foreigners. You are only confirming they are colons

So by your logic arab people in Europe are colons and should GTFO ? The reality is that migration happen and territory dont belong to a special skin color. Saying the opposite and hatin people who were born on the same territory just bc of their culture is just plain racism.

1998 was 26 years ago and people are assholes to each other at work even when they are from the same culture. Thats not an argument.

And once again the kanaks have their own institutions and are mostly autonomous. (And even better than that considering the money flowing from france). And the extremist actually burnt them several times.

Its not about colonisation. Its basic extremist / racist violence from a minority motivated but russian propaganda on tik tok like in niger and centra africa

Re: Twitter is now attention roulette and ultimately meaningless

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Post by prmoustache »

davidguetta wrote: post #118
prmoustache wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not russian propaganda: https://www.un.org/dppa/decolonization/en/nsgt/new-caledonia By the way your are contradicting yourself; If as you say the issue are kanaks being racists against foreigners, that means the non kanak french people living there are indeed foreigners. You are only confirming they are colons. I suggest you give a look at the "strip tease" TV program of 1998 (not so long ago) were you could s…

> If as you say the issue are kanaks being racists against foreigners, that means the non kanak french people living there are indeed foreigners. You are only confirming they are colons So by your logic arab people in Europe are colons and should GTFO ? The reality is that migration happen and territory dont belong to a special skin color. Saying the opposite and hatin people who were born on the same territory just…

> So by your logic arab people in Europe are colons and should GTFO ?

Which Arab people? Is there an arab government who has invaded, maintained a force presence, set up its own political institutions, decimated the population with diseases, exploited the indigenous population, and that is sending police forces from its mainland to a european country to maintain control in the last 2 centuries?

You are mixing up migration and colonization which are different things.

Re: Twitter is now attention roulette and ultimately meaningless

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Post by ivanhoe »

mrkeen wrote: post #56
ivanhoe wrote: post #36

I don't get why people keep using the default recommendations? The whole point of twitter was that you manually pick who to follow and see just that. And you still can do that, use the Following tab and it'll work just the same as the day 1. For extra points you can create lists so that you can group people and fine-tune your timeline...

I don't know who's right here, but the article did address it > One of the main ways I was using Twitter is to find people doing interesting things and then follow them to see what they're up to. This no longer works since you no longer see tweets from the people you follow unless they go viral.

I don't want to sound arrogant, but they really need to rtfm.

There's a tab Following in the top and it shows people that you follow and their activity. I use it daily and haven't noticed anything of what they describe.

Now, there are other problems obviously: one is how aggressively Twitter was pushing their "recommendations", so for a while the app used to switch back to recommendations without asking for permission, which was really a douchebag move, but you just switch it back to Following tab and timeline again works fine. I haven't noticed this lately, so it could have also been just a bug they've fixed. Another issue is that they mix notifications from "friends of friends" (in Facebook lingo), which also can suck as sometimes ppl you follow happen to follow idiots (¯\_(ツ)_/¯), but you can just block annoying people and after some time trash filters out.

So it's far from perfect, but on the other hand it's not that big drama as some ppl try to present it, honestly. At least for my needs and my circle of online friends and interests...

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