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How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Em. At least one of them is real since I just got it. https://imgur.com/a/pY1VQC3 Query: how much would $3500 in 2015 be worth in 2024? Edit: And got a second one: https://imgur.com/a/E9HJcpn Query: what rhymes with pavement?

I got it too; it's real. Using the "Web" view gives the correct result on top, the AI overview looks like it picked 1789 as the starting point.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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> how does anyone find this acceptable? Many in the tech community have high expectations for Google engineering quality and product development. The expectations are now too high, much like the executives who pushed this feature.

> Many in the tech community have high expectations for Google engineering quality and product development Wait? Whom has these expectations? I presumed most in the tech industry scoff at anything Google launches, point at Google Graveyard or at all the failures they've been through. Seriously: aside from search, ads and android, what product has Google developed ever that is of high quality and meeting the high qual…

Really the only 100% in-house products are Search and Gmail. The rest was bolted on piecemeal into the Borg: maps, android, double click, docs, YouTube, etc. - all acquired.

That’s not a bad thing, Google is really a story about a shrewd - even brilliant - acquisition and integration strategy.

However, they have systemically failed to grow new things in-house - be it space balloon internet, being an ISP, games network, etc etc.

They are likely better off just buying Anthropic at this point.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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FWIW the Firefox instructions don't seem to apply to Ubuntu (at least under GNOME, can't speak for any other DE). There's no "three dots," just right click on the address bar, then choose "Add Google Web" from the context menu. Alternatively, you can avoid this nonsense entirely by using DuckDuckGo, or StartPage, or Kagi, or any number of other totally competent search engines.

No 3 dots on Windows either.

Not just "no 3 dots", but it's "settings" not preferences, and even after getting to the search settings, the instructions don't make sense.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Considering how much Google search has shaped my life, I am somewhat* surprised by the amount of people in this thread, who apparently have zero tolerance for continued innovation in this area and the rough edges it brings. *Oh well, it's hn, after all

It's kind of interesting when you look back a year or so to when ChatGPT came out, and the prevailing HN sentiment seemed to be that ChatGPT would be a Google Search killer, even back when it was even more prone to hallucinations and stating wild nonsense as fact.

When ChatGPT first came out, you were getting everyone's first impressions, which LLMs are notoriously good at. And if you ask me, mostly useless once you get past those first impressions.

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Do you think anyone at Google even feels guilty or responsible about shipping this garbage or will they still receive a big fat bonus for shipping something? I understand that Google is probably under pressure due to all the AI-hype, but surely there must be someone on the inside that could call out this trash for what it is? Has the organization become so fully captured by psychopaths such that common sense is no lo…

The hierarchy is too strong. Subordinate Googlers cannot really challenge anyone in their leadership chain. That leaves Siblings to challenge each other, which doesn't really happen either. (VPs either can't check other VPs, or don't give a f** about doing so)

They just take the money at this point, I don't blame the low rang employees too much. Google isn't what it used to be and is not inhabited by the same spirit of the early days, most of those employees are long gone, the culture has changed, etc...

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It may be a doctored image. But we don't know. I don't think these things are deterministic. At least not just with search query. It could be real, and you might get a real response that makes sense.

it’s just ten RNGs and a dictionary in a trench coat.

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I haven't seen any howlers myself in Google yet, but Meta suggested to me that electric city buses can be charged "at home."

I mean, that’s not wrong depending on the home…

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Let me know if you ever get a result that's as wildly incorrect as those

This WSJ article has lots of examples. https://archive.is/20220817223004/https://www.wsj.com/articl...

Note 2017 though.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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How do we know these are real? I put the same prompts in and got proper answers!!

The answers aren’t deterministic. Which is part of the problem. While searching for these now may give you the right answers, I have personally encountered this level of bad responses enough times that none of these are surprising. There’s no need to doctor screenshots to get these responses, at least twice now Google has shown bad answers in their own marketing materials .

Plain old web search wasn't deterministic either. At least for the past decade or more. I mean different people getting different results.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Your loss, I will keep expanding my brain with the wisdom of Googles powerful AI https://imgur.com/a/g4qOU9a

The desperation to stay relevant and shout "AI! AI!" is so loud at Google that it drowns out all else, including common sense.

I think when it comes to success Google's products find success with either (or both) of the two factors.

1. Excellent integration with rest of the google ecosystem which ends up me and my friends using it and it is good enough so we continue using it. (E.g. Chrome, Photos, Drive, etc.)

2. Products are genuinely better and leagues ahead of nearest competition. (Gmail, Docs, Youtube).

I suspect Gemini is relying more on 1 rather than 2 at this point as it is not clear if it is indeed the best. But if it can play well with other Google products I am happy.

For example, I have Google One 2TB subscription to pay for all the storage and extra features, result of which I get Gemini Advanced for free and it also works in Docs. I rarely have the need to open ChatGPT even if ChatGPT is better than Gemini.

Search is where I am somewhat skeptical but this experiment is totally worth it in my opinion in Google's perspective and not doing it is stupid. Human beings adapt to the error rate of the Gen AI over time. So unless someone else delivers say 5x better accuracy than Gemini, I think it wont matter.

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