I think hours of video call with five other people need to be a metric for devices now.
Does battery drain depend on how many people are on a call?
Yes, every person in the call has a video feed that must be decoded and rendered.
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does battery drain depend on how many people are on a call?
Yes, every person in the call has a video feed that must be decoded and rendered.
So does it take more battery to render several small video feeds versus one large one? If I'm on a call with a bunch of people, does "speaker mode" take less battery than "gallery mode"? Somehow I doubt it would be noticeable, if the effect exists at all.
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#113The hardware looks and sounds great. Too bad it's running Windows 11.
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#114Very excited to see this. Microsoft Windows was always a bottleneck for us when it came to ad content delivery to Windows users. With this incredible performance of Surface Pro, we will deliver ads to those users at a speed they have never see before. By the time you close one ad, 3 others are already open. Thank you Satya for making this happen.
Hehe spot on. 58% faster ad delivery, in 58% more random places than you would have expected!
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#115You'd think they'd compare Pro models v. Pro models.
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If they ship on time they might get four months before Apple has a faster machine. And the last six weeks to two months of that, people will likely wait and see (if they consider anything from MS at all that is).
Is anybody swapping ecosystems based on one-off specifications? That seems incredibly foolhardy. Platforms are sticky.
First rule of marketing is people buy a story, not a product.
If people are bailing it could be the new competition is that compelling, or it could be that your customers have been looking to jump ship and this product was compelling enough to tip them over.
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Yes but you'll note MS has made no specific claims about battery life and performance.
You can't have both. With the current M3 you also won't get 20h on battery while running an hadoop cluster on it.
Performance-per-watt leagues ahead of the competition is the key metric Apple is selling their silicon on. The whole reason these chips are getting so much acclaim is they do have both.
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Of course. But if I get a new device out of the box, make no changes, and it doesn't get those numbers, then it's a lie. That's been my experience before (not with a Surface), and it was OP's experience with a Surface.
Sure, the question is, have you tested the device fresh out the box and found a 3-4x less battery life than advertised in the same test scenario? I guess that would be fraud, but that depends on what all the fine print on the battery claim states.
Personally, not 3-4x but I'd estimate 1.5x. But I never did a proper test.
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Can’t believe it’s 2024 and Microsoft has not sorted this out yet. I switched to MacBooks 15 years ago because I liked being able to close the lid at any moment and stuff it into my laptop and go. Got burned one too many times trying to sleep/hibernate HP business laptops by closing the lid and they stayed on and got hot. Not once has that happened with a MacBook.
It's not that they haven't sorted this out, it's that they intentionally broke it. S3 sleep was a solved problem all the way back in the Windows XP days. The problem is that S3 sleep means the machine is actually sleeping, and short of timers being set ahead of time or explicit wake events by PCI devices, the machine is unable to think which means it can't do important things like download ads^W suggestions or simila…
While it's deeply frustrating that S3 standby is increasingly unsupported on laptops with new firmwares, I find that hibernate works perfectly instead. It's been my preferred option whenever I stop using my PC for a short while and blazing fast modern SSDs have made it more useful than ever.
It's bewildering that Microsoft have made hibernate hidden by default. Yet at the same time, "fast startup" is enabled by default! Something as simple as power states has deliberately been completely broken.
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#120So snapdragon believes they’ve built a faster and more energy efficient chip than Apples M-series. I thought the general consensus was that Apple was years ahead of the competition. What breakthrough did Snapdragon come up with?
Buying TSMC silicon just like Apple and AMD.