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Re: GPT-4o

#111
post #58

They are admitting[1] that the new model is the gpt2-chatbot that we have seen before[2]. As many highlighted there, the model is not an improvement like GPT3->GPT4. I tested a bunch of programming stuff and it was not that much better. It's interesting that OpenAI is highlighting the Elo score instead of showing results for many many benchmarks that all models are stuck at 50-70% success. [1] https://twitter.com/Lia…

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Re: GPT-4o

#112
post #38

Given that they are moving all these features to free users, it tells us that GPT-5 is around the corner and is significantly much better than their previous models.

Or maybe it is a desperation move after Llama 3 got released and the free mode will have such tight constraints that it will be unusable for anything a bit more serious.

Re: GPT-4o

#113
post #24

The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.

I mention this down thread, but a symptom of a tech product of sufficient advancement is the nature of its introduction matters less and less.

Based on the casual production of these videos, the product must be this good.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40346002

Re: GPT-4o

#114
I wonder if the audio stuff works like ViTS. Do they just encode the audio as tokens and input the whole thing? Wouldn't that make the context size a lot smaller?

One does notice that context size is noticeably absent from the announcement ...

Re: GPT-4o

#115
The usual critics will quickly point out that LLMs like GPT-4o still have a lot of failure modes and suffer from issues that remain unresolved. They will point out that we're reaping diminishing returns from Transformers. They will question the absence of a "GPT-5" model. And so on -- blah, blah, blah, stochastic parrots, blah, blah, blah.

Ignore the critics. Watch the demos. Play with it.

This stuff feels magical. Magical. It makes the movie "Her" look like it's no longer in the realm of science fiction but in the realm of incremental product development. HAL's unemotional monotone in Kubrick's movie, "Space Odyssey," feels... oddly primitive by comparison. I'm impressed at how well this works.

Well-deserved congratulations to everyone at OpenAI!

Re: GPT-4o

#116

I've been waiting to see someone drop a desktop app like they showcased. I wonder how long until it is normal to have an AI looking at your screen the entire time your machine is unlocked. Answering contextual questions and maybe even interjecting if it notices you made a mistake and moved on.

That seems to be what Microsoft is building and will reveal as a new Windows feature at BUILD '24. Not too sure about the interjecting aspect but ingesting everything you do on your machine so you can easily recall and search and ask questions, etc. AI Explorer is the rumored name and will possibly run locally on Qualcomm NPUs.

Re: GPT-4o

#117
OAI just made an embarrassment of Google's fake demo earlier this year. Given how this was recorded, I am pretty certain it's authentic.

Re: GPT-4o

#119
post #27

Parts of the demo were quite choppy (latency?) so this definitely feels rushed in response to Google I/O. Other than that, looks good. Desktop app is great, but I didn’t see no mention of being able to use your own API key so OS projects might still be needed. The biggest thing is bringing GPT-4 to free users, that is an interesting move. Depending on what the limits are, I might cancel my subscription.

what's the download link for the desktop app? can't find it

Re: GPT-4o

#120
As a paid user this felt like a huge letdown. GPT-4o is available to everyone so I'm paying $20/mo for...what, exactly? Higher message limits? I have no idea if I'm close to the message limits currently (nor do I even know what they are). So I guess I'll cancel, then see if I hit the limits?

I'm also extremely worried that this is a harbinger of the enshittification of ChatGPT. Processing video and audio for all ~200 million users is going to be extravagantly expensive, so my only conclusion is that OpenAI is funding this by doubling down on payola-style corporate partnerships that will result in ChatGPT slyly trying to mention certain brands or products in our conversations [1].

I use ChatGPT every day. I love it. But after watching the video I can't help but think "why should I keep paying money for this?"

[1] https://www.adweek.com/media/openai-preferred-publisher-prog...

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