The authenticity of host 'terminal.shop (172.65.113.113)' can't be established.
ED25519 key fingerprint is SHA256:TMZnO7N8mmR/Pap3urU2P4uBNuhxuWtDUak0g9gyZ8s
That's a bit different than the key listed
New startup sells coffee through SSH
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Re: New startup sells coffee through SSH
#112sure, but can I sudo a sandwich ?
Re: New startup sells coffee through SSH
#113It's sold out and the only option if you actually connect via ssh is to give them your email address so they can send you updates.
Makes me wonder if this is just a ploy to email harvest and there never was any coffee being sold.
There’s always risk exchanging money and information with a merchant regardless of where and how the transaction takes place. And SSH is a fairly unconventional way to run a business so that’s a point in favor of extra caution. That said, tit is pretty unlikely to be a scam. Two of the team members are theprimeagen and teej_dv; both longtime twitch/youtube streamers: with a reasonable following: one of whom is a core neovim maintainer. They streamed the development of most of this live on twitch. They have a reputation to uphold and a track record of other publicly facing work to help support the legitimacy of this venture. Sadly, the VOD requires a subscription and the source isn’t available (though they said they plan to open source it) so there’s not much to fall back on other than hearsay until the orders start arriving or the code gets posted.
Re: New startup sells coffee through SSH
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everquest has you beat by a couple decades: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7020132 In that game you can type /pizza and it'll get ordered and delivered
That makes me miss the days when "but in 3D!" was a novel business model... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=everquest+gameplay&t=fpas&iar=imag... Hard to be formulaic when there's not a formula. "Why not real pizza ingame?"
The Everquests certainly seem dated today, but for their time, they were pretty neat! The gameplay was simple (especially by today's standards), but it was a pretty unforgiving game that required a lot of teamwork. It was the social aspect that kept most people playing, I think, especially in guilds.
I remember a lot of the playerbase kept asking for significant changes to make the game less grindy and hardcore, but the main game designer would always push back and reiterate The Vision™ (in their words) and stick to their plans. Not only did they not ask for feedback, they would actively fight back against it and reinforce their stance. Well, they must've done something right... 25 years later, EQ is still alive, celebrating its anniversary, and making new expansions (after several sets of publisher/developer changes, though).
If not for EQ, we wouldn't have had World of Warcraft and all the other MMOs. But today's MMOs have all become basically "massively singleplayer" in that grouping is rare outside of guilds and limited end-game raids, with bots and boosters of various sorts taking the place of what used to require multiple real people (AI really IS ruining everything!)
The social aspect has been heavily deemphasized nowadays (Diablo and Destiny don't even have global chats anymore) and you mostly just see the ghosts of people doing their own things with no real need to interact with them anymore. Too bad =/
Showing off /pizza or other fun commands (emotes, music, crafting, etc.) was a big part of the old-school experience. These days there are still some semi-social MMOs (New World has an awesome group music jamming system, where multiple people can get together and jam like Rock Band/Guitar Hero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggWZJNnaLNU)... but sadly no more in-game pizza that I know of.
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If anyone's looking for an old-school MMO in the style of EQ, Project Gorgon is an indie MMO made by (I believe) a mom-and-pop dev team: https://store.steampowered.com/app/342940/Project_Gorgon/
Re: New startup sells coffee through SSH
#115> # use the command below to order your delicious 12oz bag of Nil Blend coffee > ssh terminal.shop Oops, I thought I was supposed to enter it directly into the prompt on the webpage. The styling makes it look like an interactive console, I figured they included an embedded javascript SSH client for users who might not have one.
Made the same mistake
Re: New startup sells coffee through SSH
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's baby+bathwater. Just use ssh-add -c to have the ssh-agent confirm every use of a key.
TIL. Thanks! Gonna do wonders when working at places where I can't use a hardware key with physical confirmation of use. My assessment still stands. Use proxyjump (-J) instead of proxy command whenever possible.
What can also help is specifying the right options right in ~/.ssh/config for certain hosts and domains: E.g. do "ForwardAgent no" globally, use a "Match *.my-trustworthy-company-domain.com" block and add "ForwardAgent yes" there.
Also very good for other options that are useful but problematic when used with untrustworthy target hosts, like ForwardX11, GSSAPIAuthentication, weaker *Algorithms (e.g. for those old Cisco boxes with no updates and similar crap).
Another neat trick is just using a ""Match *.my-trustworthy-company-domain.com" block" with an "IdentityFile ~/.ssh/secret-company-internal-key" directive. That key will then be used for those company-internal things, but not for any others, if you don't add it to the agent.
Re: New startup sells coffee through SSH
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
*disable ssh agent FORWARDING. Which honestly should always be disabled. There are no trusted hosts.
> There are no trusted hosts. ...your own (headless) server that's in the same room as you, when you're using your laptop as a thin-client for it?
Depending on what it's serving, and how up to date it is, and who else is on that network and can access the server, and who else can come into that same room when you're not there, and from where you get the software that you install on that server... it might be less trustworthy than you think.
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#118Re: New startup sells coffee through SSH
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's baby+bathwater. Just use ssh-add -c to have the ssh-agent confirm every use of a key.
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Sorry, English is not my native language. I know I sometimes sound strange because most of my use of the language is around the internet and at work, not that much casual "normal" conversation.
Re: New startup sells coffee through SSH
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a public key. You should operate under the assumption that anyone could have it at any time.
Still, it identifies you so it can be used to track you over visits to many different stores-over-ssh, just like third party cookies.
if you are aware of other stores-over-ssh, I’d genuinely love to hear about them because this one is so fun. Or even not-stores that are reachable via ssh. Any MUDs still going?