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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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To be honest, I still don't understand the appeal of this product. I've always got a "one-time quick-cash hustle" video out of it and I can't trust it.

i apparently ordered one impulsively while i was… in an altered state, let’s say. (in my defense, iirc i wanted to evaluate it as a device for a family member with a neurodegenerative disease to use for some daily online activities…)

based on that appeal, i’d say you’re probably correct in that assessment.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I'm 100% convinced the Rabbit R1 and the Humane Pin are in fact not AI "Assistants" but rather "AI" spying / user data harvesting devices. This is the reason their batteries deplete so fast. They're constantly sending your data back to some shady company to be sold to the highest bidder and / or given to foreign governments.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I'm surprised people are surprised this Rabbit thing is running Android 99.9% of the HW projects that have a modestly complex display/networking need run on Android. It's a no-brainer. OEM the HW from China, even if moderately custom and they can get you something for cheap.

I’m in the same boat. It feels like they either use Android or they end up re-implementing half of Android, probably at early Android quality.

Bonus points because then they get to re-implement Spotify integrations et al instead of using an existing APK.

I don’t really care that it runs Android, but it seems like it runs on Android _and_ locks you out of said OS which I don’t love. By all means, build on Android, but then let people use Android. Let me slap a SIM in it and make calls, or install a stupid clock face or something.

I’d say the same thing of most appliances. I don’t care what OS it’s built on, but I want access to that OS as much as possible. Eg I liked that Bluecoat devices have a custom SSH shell for managing them, but you can drop into a regular bash shell with the root password. Can’t say that I used it, but it was reassuring to know that I could get vi or something if their shell fell apart.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I'm surprised people are surprised this Rabbit thing is running Android 99.9% of the HW projects that have a modestly complex display/networking need run on Android. It's a no-brainer. OEM the HW from China, even if moderately custom and they can get you something for cheap.

Android seems to be the go-to choice for most devices requiring a touch screen. You could get away with a lot less in most cases, but why bother when you can just throw together a quick Android app and use some industrial Android ROM to take care of all the hard parts? Everything from portable supermarket self service scanners to TVs has been running Android for ages. Sony has been putting Android on TVs since before…

It makes sense, but also the Rabbit barely uses the touchscreen. Almost all the interaction is via the scrolly wheel.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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It's not a very good cash hustle if people actually use it. From what I can tell, it's a one time $200 payment and you can use the LLM indefinitely. If the device costs $100 to produce and ship that's only $100 left to cover compute... forever. It seems they want the compute to run on device, but that doesn't seem to be the case right now[0]. I don't know the specs of the device, but pretty sure it'd have to cost mor…

It is most definitely selling at a loss and trying to generate enough hype to get acquired.

I highly doubt Teenage Engineering is looking to be acquired.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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It is most definitely selling at a loss and trying to generate enough hype to get acquired.

I highly doubt Teenage Engineering is looking to be acquired.

Teenage Engineering aren't the ones who would be acquired, they just did the industrial design work on contract for Rabbit. The same way TE designed the Playdate but it's not a TE product.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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google wont allow alternative voice assistants on android, so they had little choice.

?? Bixby and Alexa are on Android.

And it's pluggable at the system level so the global shortcuts that default to Google Assistant can be made to point to a third party provider instead.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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That makes me feel better about the whole project. If they were wasting their time developing a new OS from scratch instead of working on the programs running on it, I'd think they're nuts. I bought an R1 during the first pre-order and it arrived a couple days ago. In it's current form, it's not the AI from the movie "Her" that's going to manage your life for you. It's neat. It's a cool little toy that does interesti…

And the main question remains unanswered: why do they sell a whole device rather than an app?

Jesse Lyu (rabbit ceo) mentioned that they wouldn’t wait for os to avail and release sdks as it will take many years (paraphrasing).

The idea sounds I mean there’s Alexa (which is way cheaper) and shipping an AOSP with a Chinese vendor hardware is indeed manageable — but do we really want to have a ChatGPT-only 24/7? I highly doubt that, at least for me. I’m probably only chronically online for the social aspects of that, but had my interactions been only to an llm agent, I don’t think I’ll be using it that much.

I like to think 5 or 10 years later in the future and see how us and the newer generations would interact with technology but I find it difficult to envision that would be rabbit r1 device

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