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Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Post by seydor » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 6:01 PM UTC

29athrowaway wrote: post #55

Europe needs its own tech megacorps. Their own OS, office suite, cloud provider, source control, social media, mobile devices, etc. The creates the abundance of data required to win at AI. Because Europe doesn't own its own data, they lack the data necessary to win in AI against others that do. Creating a EU startup ecosystem without the megacorps is just feeding the American megacorps more because those startups wil…

That would limit the scope and size of EU megacorps. How is it that amazon can dominate europe, but hetzner has not been able to ? Europe invented free markets and needs them. In fact it may be the competitive advantage of europe to reverse this stupid antiglobalization global campaign

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Post by Muromec » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 6:01 PM UTC

seydor wrote: post #21

We need to form a committee that will discuss the format of the procedure to be used to formulate open proposals about how to wake her up. Urgently

And draw a diagram. Always draw a diagram before submitting to the committee.

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Post by burgos_thrw » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 6:02 PM UTC

lycos wrote: post #47

marcinzm wrote: post #22

This misses the big one: California bans non-competes, bans anti-moonlighting clauses and lets you quit with no notice. If you’re at an EU company and need to give 3+ months notice to quit that will discourage starting your own company on the side.

I have never seen a 3+ month notice to quit in the country I live, curious which country this happens in? Sounds extremely ridiculous if true

I had it in two last jobs in Germany (and had to wait them and also when we hire and do roadmaps we know that the person will not start before the next or the quarter after the next) as all of my coworkers, except few. These were executive and had 6 months notice periods.

Not that I complain, six months of rest and vest life wasn’t bad :-)

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Post by b800h » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 6:02 PM UTC

ta1243 wrote: post #65

marcinzm wrote: post #22

This misses the big one: California bans non-competes, bans anti-moonlighting clauses and lets you quit with no notice. If you’re at an EU company and need to give 3+ months notice to quit that will discourage starting your own company on the side.

3 months notice tends to apply to people who have been there a hell of a long time. At least in the UK. My notice period is 3 months. I've also got 2 months of long service leave built up so in effect it's 1 month (as I can just take the 2 months notice) On the flip side if they make me redundant I get the best part of 18 months salary after paying taxes, and at least 5 months pay after they say its happening where I…

> 3 months notice tends to apply to people who have been there a hell of a long time. At least in the UK.

Increasingly not the case. I'm seeing an awful lot of "One month in the first three months, three months thereafter". It used to be pretty universally one month.

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Post by altdataseller » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 6:03 PM UTC

seydor wrote: post #90

altdataseller wrote: post #50

“The problem is not that regulation 1 or 100 is too much. The problem is that every country has different regulations, creating a mess of complexity if you want to act across a larger consumer market” If you’re building the next Uber sure, this might be a problem. But this is also a HUGE advantage if you’re not though. If you’re building the Workday for Estonia, or the LinkedIn for Germany (ie Xing) you have a huge a…

You re just building 27 different companies that are all reinventing the same wheel in their country, and they are all destined to never grow, until some US company localizes their offering and shuts them all down. Microsoft has done exactly that 100 times

That's a VC perspective. Sure they'll never be a massive 1B company, but they can be successful businesses for 2 to 5 people teams

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Post by wumeow » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 6:03 PM UTC

alephnerd wrote: post #19

A lot of the "Europe is bleh" rhetoric is about Western Europe - specifically France, Germany, and the UK (if they make it harder for European and Asian immigrants to come). The Eastern and Central European countries have always felt much more dynamic and open to work hard. There's a reason why the countries on the lefthand side of the graph provided are also the ones with some of the better innovation industries in…

> every developing Asian country from India to Vietnam to China is pushing English fluency

Is that still true of China? Several top universities have removed English tests from their graduation requirements afaik.

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Post by b800h » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 6:03 PM UTC

alephnerd wrote: post #87

Red_Leaves_Flyy wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

India’s where offshoring from the us is. That maintains demand. India is also still industrializing. Expect India to look more like China - with similar economic pitfalls - in the next few decades. Some companies have already begun pulling from India because of costs and poor performance negating the labor savings. Some companies have figured this out and the non competes create a captive workforce but others are jus…

> Expect India to look more like China - with similar economic pitfalls - in the next few decades Pretty much this. The best way to operate in India is to use a mixed Chinese and Israeli mindset tbh. > India’s where offshoring from the us is True, but there is a massive change now from the 2000s where it's just BPO. Literally the crown jewels of enterprise and deep tech and increasingly innovated and designed by the…

> The best way to operate in India is to use a mixed Chinese and Israeli mindset tbh.

What do you mean by that?

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Post by flumpcakes » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 6:04 PM UTC

Paianni wrote: post #28

Teaching English will just reinforce Anglo-American hegemony.

I think that's the point of this article to be honest.

If we lived in a fair and just world, the EU having the 4th largest economy doesn't seem like a bad thing. Going by numbers alone China (1.8bn) and India (1.5bn) are much more populace than the EU (450mln).

However, I would would probably side with the author and personally much prefer a group of liberal democracies following the rule of law to always be on top. If the world needs to bow to autocracies then we will have a bad time, Russia is just the prelude.

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Post by vundercind » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 6:05 PM UTC

Tagbert wrote: post #27

dangrossman wrote: post #3

I can't scroll this webpage to read it unless I plug my laptop in. Scroll events have a lag time measured in whole seconds, then the page scrolls down by either a fraction of a line or by multiple paragraphs, so I can't keep track of where I was reading. Plugging in my laptop, which changes the power mode, makes the webpage barely usable, but my cooling fans are spun up to full speed now. This is using Chrome on a De…

I have visited the site in a Mac browser and on iOS Safari and scrolling is perfectly normal. Not sure what issue you are running into.

iPhone safari here, the background had a weird distracting flicker, like my backlight was going bad.

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Post by whiplash451 » Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 6:05 PM UTC

« But India is one country »

I am sorry but this argument cannot be dismissed.

The reason why Europe struggles to implement changes is precisely because it is not a single country but a large group of countries represented by complex bodies where politics strive.