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Are Ultra-Processed Foods All That Unhealthy?

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Re: Are Ultra-Processed Foods All That Unhealthy?

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> Like all dietary/nutrition sciences there are plenty of studies for both sides of arguments (e.g. coffee is healthy/unhealthy, eggs are healthy/unhealthy), so you can easily find studies that contradict the benefits of bacteria in raw milk (certainly there is a potential safety risk) Apparently not, as per the study you linked to. "To our knowledge, there are no studies exploring the impact of unpasteurised milk in…

> Apparently not, as per the study you linked to. Follow the logic for the specific examples I gave, you will find studies where eggs are healthy/unhealthy and coffee is healthy/unhealthy I provided a study that concluded there’s an association between raw milk and microbiome health resulting in positive physical/mental outcomes. You clearly asked in bad faith, as I said generally raw milk is nutrient dense a signifi…

You stated more than a few times that raw milk has health benefits. You did not say 'it may have health benefits' or 'I believe there are benefits' you said 'the health benefits of raw milk'.

Asking someone to a follow up for a statement of fact is not bad faith, and saying that it is, is just an attempt to shift me into some kind of villain so you get an escape hatch.

If you don't know what they are, say that. But to google a study that you don't bother to read and get super defensive when confronted about the fact that it is meaningless is childish.

Re: Are Ultra-Processed Foods All That Unhealthy?

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> AFAIK (not a dietitian), there's nothing inherently bad about lowering fat intake. Two things: - Why remove naturally occurring fat from a food? If to lower calories, why not remove total quantity of food, and fat in its natural proportion? Here's a fact: humans NEED dietary fat to survive. We don't need dietary carbs. - When we remove fat, what is replacing it?

The amount of dietary fat needed for humans to survive is very small. Most studies I’ve seen suggest the amount is close to 30-50g/day (depending on your weight) before there’s any meaningful long term health problems. Dietary carbs are extremely valuable for energy purposes. Sure, you can be a keto nut and go completely no carbs, but extra carbs is valuable for energy reasons. That said, ideally you should be replac…

I'll emphasize it again: dietary fat is essential. Dietary carbs are not. You can live forever on zero carbs. Therefore it's extremely unlikely that carbs are more "valuable" than fat.

Whether "extra calories" go to fat or are burned, is determined by your level of insulin. You can google this. As a starting point, I recommend any video or blog post by Dr. Jason Fung.

Eating a high protein diet is difficult to do, and also hard on the kidneys. It may work for teenagers and twenty-something males who want to unnaturally bulk up. It is not healthy for long life.

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