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Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by srid »

klausa wrote: post #10
geor9e wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That term isn't in the article, and it's Wikipedia page doesn't have anything about military. It just says it's a Linux distro. I'm out of the loop.

Anduril was supposed to be a sponsor for a Nix conference; it was then dropped after community reacted negatively to having a weapons manufacturer being a sponsor. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37418351

The submission you linked to is 7 months old, but the NixOS drama is ongoing:

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-event-sponsor...

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/major-nixpkgs-contributor-leav...

https://twitter.com/sridca/status/1767602500461375721

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by 7thaccount »

dralley wrote: post #55
torginus wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem in the US defense industry is, that since the end of the cold war, defense companies have consolidated into just 5 huge conglomerates and the lack of competition wasn't great for the pace of innovation, affordability or timely development. And the Cold War ended more than three decades ago, about the time we went from piston aircraft to the teen series jets making up the bulk of US inventory even today. I…

There's definitely more than one problem with defense procurement, one of the biggest problems is simply having straightforward, acheivable goals in the first place and not fucking with them halfway through the process. And honestly at this point the Air Force is handling this much better than the other branches. Despite all the delays and cost overruns on the F-22 and F-35 projects, at least we ended up with really…

The LCS situation is embarrassing. What is the navy working on now? Replacements to the Arleigh Burke destroyers?

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by anonymousDan »

basil-rash wrote: post #103
aprilthird2021 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Innovation has not been in defense engineering lately because the US has lost A LOT of public trust when it comes to the defense industry in the wake of Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. The US is not the country, nor do they have the reputation in front of the public that led to the Manhattan project, where the greatest minds would willingly work on defense projects, not just willingly but eagerly. The breakthroughs a…

I also went to a/the top CS school. When I graduated I would have never considered working at a defense company. Now, after bouncing around big tech and startups for a few years, I am a few days away from accepting a position at one. What changed? Appreciation for how entirely insignificant to downright harmful the rest of the industry is, perhaps. I made changes that impacted tens of millions of users in... no signi…

That 'cut out the middleman' angle always makes me chuckle. I remember seeing an ad on the tube for Made.com offering to cut out the middleman in furniture purchasing - what are you if not a middleman I thought!

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by Garvi »

It's hard to believe, but the times of "If I won't do it, someone else will." are back and it seems people forgot the lesson. It is my honest opinion that anyone who works on such weapons is a monster.

3 years ago this topic would be full of people protesting this. Pointing out the inhumanity, the potential for abuse, the hypocrisy, the dangers of desensitizing war. Censorship changed the game entirely.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by shantara »

wmf wrote: post #51
modeless wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully this time the incumbent doesn't get paid twice as much for a worse outcome, as happened with Commercial Crew... NASA paid Boeing 4.5 billion and counting, SpaceX 2.6 billion. SpaceX launched astronauts to ISS 7 times, completely fulfilling the original contract, and continues to launch on new contracts with NASA. Meanwhile Boeing has yet to fly a single astronaut and required NASA to pay them extra for thei…

If those are the two lowest bids what else are you going to do?

From what I recall from NASA Artemis contracts selection process, all bids are weighted with two parameters in addition to the proposed cost: technical merits of the proposal and the confidence score based on the company's management and previous performance.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

ninetyninenine wrote: post #83
dcgoss wrote: post #21

Anduril's Fury aircraft: https://www.anduril.com/fury/

Marketing. Trust me... it's not that cool. They hire artists to design this stuff. Not kidding. The exterior is made by an industrial designer more so then an actual engineer. I would know, I worked at the company previously.

He’s stated they have a no renders policy so would be weird if they had that then did what you suggest.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by willcipriano »

torginus wrote: post #46
anyfactor wrote: post #40

Is Anduril really that good? I am trying to figure out what is the potential of Anduril is. Their first phase product was in observability towers for border protection, then they made drone-ramming drones and now unmanned fighter jets. I am genuinely curious. I was in the whole retail investor space since early 2010s which saw the EV hype. Workhorse was supposed to supply vans for federal postal vans, Nikola had that…

The problem in the US defense industry is, that since the end of the cold war, defense companies have consolidated into just 5 huge conglomerates and the lack of competition wasn't great for the pace of innovation, affordability or timely development. And the Cold War ended more than three decades ago, about the time we went from piston aircraft to the teen series jets making up the bulk of US inventory even today. I…

You know how you hear a lot of complaints about private prisons?

How it creates perverse incentives that result in more people being imprisoned?

We have a private war apparatus.

We have been at war for 30 years without even a clear objective.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by merman »

Garvi wrote: post #115

It's hard to believe, but the times of "If I won't do it, someone else will." are back and it seems people forgot the lesson. It is my honest opinion that anyone who works on such weapons is a monster. 3 years ago this topic would be full of people protesting this. Pointing out the inhumanity, the potential for abuse, the hypocrisy, the dangers of desensitizing war. Censorship changed the game entirely.

let’s all be diplomats instead. That will save our allies!

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by mistercheph »

Garvi wrote: post #115

It's hard to believe, but the times of "If I won't do it, someone else will." are back and it seems people forgot the lesson. It is my honest opinion that anyone who works on such weapons is a monster. 3 years ago this topic would be full of people protesting this. Pointing out the inhumanity, the potential for abuse, the hypocrisy, the dangers of desensitizing war. Censorship changed the game entirely.

C'mon, man!
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