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FTC announces rule banning noncompetes

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Re: FTC announces rule banning noncompetes

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Unlikely they are in a policy making position.

You're missing the subtle sarcasm here. OP is implying that companies will deem engineers making $150k+ as making policy decisions in order to continue enforcing the existing non-competes they have most likely signed.

I wish I was being sarcastic! IME the sort of people putting non-competes in contracts will claim things like "programming is simply the act of defining company policy in machine form".

Re: FTC announces rule banning noncompetes

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I suspect this is bad for California, its lack of noncompetes was a huge differentiation for a while. (how bad? I don't know.)

I'd guess it will have the opposite effect as companies have one less big reason to avoid CA.

The reason no non-competes has helped CA is increasing startup formation. California has shown over the last 30-50 years that startup formation > attracting legacy businesses for growth. Unless that changes, California becoming less differentiated for startup formation but getting more legacy businesses is a bad trade for California.

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I am 100% for this, but it makes me sad that the legislative branch has nearly completely abandoned its duty to pass laws in favor of granting the executive branch the authority to regulate just about everything. This is a problem for two main reasons: 1. The executive branch can unilaterally revoke these regulations, making them more volatile. Maybe my non-compete is invalid today, but will it be in 4 years when I a…

> The executive branch can unilaterally revoke these regulations The US Constitution + amendments delineates the powers of the branches. Is the situation you describe possibly a window in time when executive branch constitutional overreach has not been yet challenged? [ edit : great explanations below -> sincere thanks ]

Congress created the FTC, congress could eliminate or curtail the FTC's power.

Some have argued that it's unconstitutional for congress to give away its power (even conditionally) in this way, but AFAIK that's a rather fringe legal theory. Certainly the FTC has existed for over 100 years at this point, so there's been plenty of time to challenge it.

Re: FTC announces rule banning noncompetes

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Full text of the ruling here: https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/noncompete-rule... It's not surprising after thinking about it for a minute, but it did startle me to read that the FTC measures innovation by the number of patents issued. > In addition, the final rule is expected to help drive innovation, leading to an estimated average increase of 17,000 to 29,000 more patents each year for the next 10 year…

FRED has a good blog post on measuring innovation.

https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2021/june/how-to-measu....

Re: FTC announces rule banning noncompetes

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Does this change a lot for many people? This doesn't mean you can scurry off a just build a competing product/service to your existing employer. You probably also have NDA and/or IP agreements too. > The Commission found that employers have several alternatives to noncompetes that still enable firms to protect their investments without having to enforce a noncompete. > Trade secret laws and non-disclosure agreements…

Yes, as this eliminates the threat of lawsuit I've had made against me for just changing jobs (multiple times).

Re: FTC announces rule banning noncompetes

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> The Commission also finds that instead of using noncompetes to lock in workers, employers that wish to retain employees can compete on the merits for the worker’s labor services by improving wages and working conditions. I absolutely love this.

Hogwash! I demand a free market for my business, but a closed market for my assets.

Privatized gains, public losses. It is the capitalist way.

Re: FTC announces rule banning noncompetes

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If I have an existing non compete — what does this mean for me ? Is it invalid?

Going off of the press release, it doesn't go into effect until 120 days after publication and doesn't apply to current senior executives which are defined as "workers earning more than $151,164 annually and who are in policy-making positions." I would also imagine that it will immediately be challenged in court.

How does a challenge work? Is the law valid until a ruling decides or is it put on pause?

Re: FTC announces rule banning noncompetes

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It'll be interesting to see what happens. It does sound like this clearly falls under interstate commerce, so within the scope of Fed action. Is there something that makes you think otherwise? Beyond court composition, that is.

That this is coming from the executive branch, not the legislative branch.

Sure, but FTC was authorized by congress (FTC Act 1914) to "prevent unfair methods of competition and unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce" which seems pretty cut and dried? I may be missing something, this just feels pretty reasonable.

Re: FTC announces rule banning noncompetes

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Total aside, but I think it is ridiculous that CoC larps as a quasi governmental organization. When in actuality it is a Union of Capitalists.

I don’t get that appearance. Their website does not end in .gov and their about page does not indicate they are an official agency: https://www.uschamber.com/about

I have heard the name "US Chamber of Commerce" before, and as someone who isn't a politics/government nerd, I always assumed that was some kind of government organization responsible for something...commerce related.

Clicking through to the website and seeing the kind of articles on there makes it pretty obvious that's not the case though, even ignoring the .com domain.

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