Live data from Hacker News

I Know the secret to the quiet mind. I wish I'd never learned it (2021)

theatlantic.com

111–120 of 131 posts

Re: I Know the secret to the quiet mind. I wish I'd never learned it (2021)

#111

Any updates on how she’s been going?

Here's her facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/hanaschank She seems to be doing well and her writing and snark are on point. After reading her posts I'd wager 50% of you will think she's still brain-damaged and 50% will say she's never been in better shape -- such is the contemporary zeitgeist.

She doesn't seem to have a (public) twitter account anymore, so I'm on the better shape side.

Re: I Know the secret to the quiet mind. I wish I'd never learned it (2021)

#112

The title says “the quiet mind”. This seems to allude to the temporary cessation of the discursive mind in (Buddhist) meditation. > When we return to New York I take the subway to doctor appointments. I don’t take out my phone, I just sit. My brain is quiet, which I find suspicious, but also soothing. Before the accident I went to yoga retreats and tried meditation. I said things like “I just need to unplug.” Apparen…

I don't think they are saying it's a downside. Quite the opposite: "but also soothing." I think she means more "If this is the price I had to pay to get there, I'd rather have a noisy mind."

Re: I Know the secret to the quiet mind. I wish I'd never learned it (2021)

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you ever observed animals, e.g. just observing how chickens socialize, it becomes absolutely clear that they have similar cognition and perception than humans.

my 3 chickens have deep and complex social dynamics all while being able to pinpoint grains of quinoa off the ground faster than a robot while being able to spot the faintest outline of the tiniest potential threatening hawk 2 miles away in the sky, fully discerned from various crows flying around that don't phase them at all. their little brains are processing far more than me.

Your chicken has a small neural net tuned for hawk-watching and speck-pecking. This can be extremely fast and efficient; just don't ask it to compute an integral or invent the diesel engine or understand a complex web of social relationships or remember its cousin's birthday.

Re: I Know the secret to the quiet mind. I wish I'd never learned it (2021)

#114

The title says “the quiet mind”. This seems to allude to the temporary cessation of the discursive mind in (Buddhist) meditation. > When we return to New York I take the subway to doctor appointments. I don’t take out my phone, I just sit. My brain is quiet, which I find suspicious, but also soothing. Before the accident I went to yoga retreats and tried meditation. I said things like “I just need to unplug.” Apparen…

I don't think they are saying it's a downside. Quite the opposite: "but also soothing." I think she means more "If this is the price I had to pay to get there, I'd rather have a noisy mind."

[deleted]

Re: I Know the secret to the quiet mind. I wish I'd never learned it (2021)

#115
post #17

This sounds like an head-on collision that happened on a high speed rural two-lane road with an impatient driver thinking they could complete a tight pass in time. I absolutely hate these roads, for this reason.

It is possible that the idiot in the truck just didn't see the oncoming car. It baffles me often how distracted drivers just pull out somewhere and hit a car that would be impossible to miss if the driver bothered to look at all.

Possible, yes, but I know of a stretch of road that sounds identical to the one from the article. Single lane each way and the natural curve upward completely obscures your visibility of the opposing lane. There's "no passing" signage but I still see drivers continually pulling exactly the same maneuver going uphill and it's the most dangerous driving situation I can imagine.

Re: I Know the secret to the quiet mind. I wish I'd never learned it (2021)

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never said chickens were smarter than us, I said my chickens are visually processing far more than I possibly can all while engaged in mentally and physically taxing activities.

> my chickens are visually processing far more than I possibly can This is what I'm responding to. I don't know how to reconcile your two sentences, but no problem.

Let’s put it this way… the common ancestor of humans and chickens is way back, well before the dinosaurs. Their visual processing systems are on an entirely different, essentially unrelated vector from our own… so are their eyes. They can see in ultraviolet, for one, and you can’t, so they’re literally processing far more information than you can even perceive… comparing these two visual systems isn’t apples and oranges, it’s apples and orangutans. The point is to not underestimate what other brains are doing, just because they’re not familiar.

Re: I Know the secret to the quiet mind. I wish I'd never learned it (2021)

#118
post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a number of factors with cycle safety. Going slowly can have a similar risk level to going faster with a helmet. You can wear a helmet and still end up like Schumacher. I just got off my bike in London, no helmet but typical speeds of 10 mph or so. Most cycle deaths here are crushed by trucks where a helmet doesn't help much.

I'm not arguing that speed plays a factor, but you should still wear a helmet. I know two people who had brain damage (like, serious damage that persists years later) from low speed falls - one was literally standing still, and the fall sent them to the hospital for a week. The other one was low speed, just starting off after stopping at the bottom of an uphill section. Not sure the exact details of what happened, bu…

Would you argue that the woman in the article should have worn a helmet?

Re: I Know the secret to the quiet mind. I wish I'd never learned it (2021)

#119
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My partner occasionally fawns over the idea of buying a vintage Jeep, "just to drive around town, not on the highways". Safety has always been my #1 point of pushback, and when we looked into what can happen even in a low speed accident without modern safety systems, that idea was put to rest pretty quickly.

Driving old cars, especially open top, can be a really fun, joyful activity! Risk manage it like any other high risk activity: plan ahead, pay attention, and be realistic about your ability.

Fair point. There’s a balance to be had!

Re: I Know the secret to the quiet mind. I wish I'd never learned it (2021)

#120
post #16

Amazing recount. I was fortunate to learn in 2018, at a relatively young age, that my mental faculties are the most precious thing I have in life (after my wife ofcourse). It was a very simple accident; chasing a high I let my bike get too fast going downhill on a wet road, a car on the other side was oncoming, I break, the back wheel slips out from under me, I hit my head on the road (with a helmet on). A bruised kn…

>>realizing my brain no longer works.

So is it really you realizing your brain no longer works, or part of the brain with ownership of the rest realizing its brain no longer works?

P>S> To get still a full spectrum, let's not forget (rather rare) cases when people with 80%< of the brain filled with cerebrospinal fluid due to hydrocephaly were able to do uni math or work as accountants.

Post reply on HN