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My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by Veserv »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #107
spiderfarmer wrote: post #7

Reportedly, Tesla is having a big issue with their accelerator pedal right now. The thin metal cover of that pedal is not always thoroughly secured and slides off easily, wedging itself into the carpet behind the pedal. This causes the accelerator to be stuck (at high velocity!). https://insideevs.com/news/716031/tesla-cybertruck-stuck-acc... As a Tesla customer, you are part of the QA team. That's what you get when…

> As a Tesla customer, you are part of the QA team. Tesla sells more cars now than BMW or MB. They have least hardware recalls in industry. This issue is on a brand new model thats sold less than 10k vehicles.

Yeah, remember that time they had 120,000 defective suspensions that routinely collapsed causing the wheels to fall off and also result in total loss of control at highway speeds [1]. But at least they covered it up for multiple years so they did not have to issue a recall.

Just cover up safety defects and avoid issuing recalls until NHTSA is about to file a case to force you to and you too can minimize the impact of safety defects on your bottom line.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-mu...

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by dzhiurgis »

jajko wrote: post #3

Move fast and break things... not the brightest idea with heavily regulated markets when we talk about 1st world countries human lives. But I'll probably die of old age than witness that massive childish ego admit a fuckup in any possible way. Till then, voting with my wallet and avoiding teslas like plague, novelty of cool tech gadget is long gone and reality seeps in.

> heavily regulated markets

ever wonder why the heavy regulation gave them max safety ratings

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by megak1d »

cjk2 wrote: post #20
LightBug1 wrote: post #10

At this point, how could anyone even contemplate buying from such a scummy company? ... (not necessarily staff, although you'd have to assume that many of them have bought in the Elon hype and are, as such, complicit). If branding means anything in this day and age, how can you associate yourself with such scummy brand? As a customer or employee? I was a fanboy a decade ago. Wouldn't touch them with your bargepole no…

I bought into it back in 2017 before the marketing facade fell. I was a fool, an idiot and a moron. As an actual qualified engineer I should have looked at the whole situation in detail and read through it. After owning my model S for 9 months I sold it because it was full of quality issues and I did not feel safe driving it on a daily basis especially with my kids in the car. It regularly just slapped the brakes on…

Hmm you obviously had a bad experience with your Tesla, I want to contrast it with my experience - I bought a new Model S in 2016 and still own it now. I owned ~10 cars prior (both non-premium e.g. Ford/VW and premium cars e.g. AM/BMW) and it is the best car I've had both in terms of running costs, failure rates and practicality (luggage space, good for family etc). I've now 8 years old, covered ~60k miles (I don't commute in it) - still has ~85% range it had when new and has been back to Tesla perhaps 4 times total in that time. That said, I've heard a lot of horror stories from others re. Tesla ownership - thankfully, I've not seen it myself.

Musk's antics have turned me off the brand a little but based on my experience, I'd buy another.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

Toutouxc wrote: post #39
rob74 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a petrol engine car you could react by shifting out of gear and flooring the brake pedal (and the clutch pedal if you have one). But what do you do in an electric car? Teslas do have a neutral gear, but it's more and more hidden with every new car generation (according to https://www.notateslaapp.com/tesla-reference/598/how-to-put-... , for some newer models it's only available via the touchscreen). So you have to…

AFAIK pressing the brake pedal should cut the throttle (even most ICE cars do that) and also the brakes should be able to overpower the motors (unless you're doing 200 km/h down a mountain and you melt them before you can stop).

If this happens, couldn't you just steer the cybertruck into a car wash, I've heard that disables them.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by delfinom »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #112
jajko wrote: post #3

Move fast and break things... not the brightest idea with heavily regulated markets when we talk about 1st world countries human lives. But I'll probably die of old age than witness that massive childish ego admit a fuckup in any possible way. Till then, voting with my wallet and avoiding teslas like plague, novelty of cool tech gadget is long gone and reality seeps in.

> heavily regulated markets ever wonder why the heavy regulation gave them max safety ratings

The highway institute testing stuff isn't regulated.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

shiroiushi wrote: post #49
m463 wrote: post #15

carpets on the older cars is still a problem. They had round adhesive velcro patches that stuck to round smooth areas on the underside of the carpets. These would velcro to pucks that screwed into the floor carpet there all kinds of problems - the picks would come loose, and the adhesive holding the velcro patch to the carpet would come loose in a hot car. and the carpets would bunch up, usually under the accelerator…

>No shifter stalk anymore, car guesses direction you want to go, no turn signal stalk, no headlight/wiper stalk, etc Sounds like they talked to the designers at Apple.

Pretty soon you’ll have to flip your Tesla over to charge it

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by bradfox2 »

m463 wrote: post #15

carpets on the older cars is still a problem. They had round adhesive velcro patches that stuck to round smooth areas on the underside of the carpets. These would velcro to pucks that screwed into the floor carpet there all kinds of problems - the picks would come loose, and the adhesive holding the velcro patch to the carpet would come loose in a hot car. and the carpets would bunch up, usually under the accelerator…

Our 2013 carpet does it, very annoying. Happens under the accelerator pedal.

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by brokenmachine »

LinuxBender wrote: post #89
JeremyNT wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The driver in the video I saw demonstrating the Tesla issue mentioned he was able to brake and stop the vehicle successfully. The problem is, you don't know when a failure is coming (or more realistically, for most people, they aren't even aware that such a failure mode is possible). It's tough to guess how people respond when panicking, even if their rational brains could devise a solution given a little time to thi…

Sounds like a need for a "chaos testing mode" where the driver intentionally drives to an empty parking lot and presses the "DO NOT PRESS THIS BUTTON" and enters a password after accepting a bunch of waivers, disclaimers. Then the car does random things and the driver has to react to each thing after having taken a course on "Here are all the known knowns and known unknowns, minus the unknown unknowns". If this does…

Good idea, Elon!

Re: My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die

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Post by banish-m4 »

TheCleric wrote: post #101
kylehotchkiss wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not fair to Boeing. They have models (787) with zero hull losses.

Yeah but I'd say that's more luck than ability at this point though.

Yep. Recall how many 787 assemblers and managers admit even they wouldn't fly on them.
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