Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom • Hacker News Board

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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Post by dijit » Sat, Apr 06, 2024, 10:18 PM UTC

zarathustreal wrote: post #86

Nifty3929 wrote: post #33

The major problem here is that our government is turning us all into criminals. Using a VPN doesn't make it legal for you to consume anonymously, even if doing so makes it harder to enforce, at least for now. Soon VPN use will be illegal in some states. Once again, hard to enforce. But these are things which, if for some reason the gov't decides to target you (in which case they can/will spend the effort to discover)…

Isn’t “constrain(ing) other people’s behavior” kinda the point of law? If you’re trying to make a point you’re gonna have to be more specific. Preventing rape, theft, and murder are all instances of “behavioral constraint”, without any qualifiers you’re artificially inflating the magnitude of the situation

The issue is that for a large portion of the population, porn consumption is not considered immoral or even if it is immoral; not an offence worthy of calling someone a criminal over.

We all know that laws are not a good indicator of morality, but society is better when we try to align laws over time with our moral code.

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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Post by jupp0r » Sat, Apr 06, 2024, 10:23 PM UTC

CapitalistCartr wrote: post #2

Anyone here recommend a VPN, for personal information safety and security rather than hiding porn?

They are usually equally suitable for both. Are you asking for a friend?

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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Post by karaterobot » Sat, Apr 06, 2024, 10:24 PM UTC

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #76

Gambling should be banned. Not porn.

I think gambling is a much more destructive force in the world than porn, but I don't think either should be banned. Don't look at it like we have to ban a certain number of things.

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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Post by ranger_danger » Sat, Apr 06, 2024, 10:24 PM UTC

fragmede wrote: post #66

donatj wrote: post #50

Tailscale exit node on a cheap vps and you're golden. Well as long as the stuff you're doing is "legal". It's still traceable back to you.

How well do subpoenas work across international borders, especially when the charge isn't illegal in the recieving jurisdiction? (asking for a friend, obvs)

very well as long as the country has an extradition treaty with your home country (if US, almost all you'd ever travel to does)

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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Post by dijit » Sat, Apr 06, 2024, 10:24 PM UTC

77pt77 wrote: post #96

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #76

Gambling should be banned. Not porn.

Why? No one forces anyone to gamble.

Eh, Gambling disproportionately impacts poor people.

It's as close to Sugar, Nicotine or Alcohol in terms of addiction as you can get without being chemical.

Same reason we ban certain ads targeting kids.

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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Post by sph » Sat, Apr 06, 2024, 10:25 PM UTC

not_a_dane wrote: post #41

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #27

Anecdote: I stayed in the Airbnb of an (obviously gay) couple in the South-Eastern very conservative Turkish city of Mersin many years ago. The absolute joy they had when I showed them how to set up 1.1.1.1 on their Android TV, phones, and laptops… so they could watch unrestricted gay porn in their heavily censored and state-controlled slice of the World Wide Web… I still get a virtual greeting card from them once in…

UK is also censoring porn sites...

Only with crappy ISPs like Virgin, which has court-mandated DNS bans for many websites (like ThePirateBay)

I use Zen which has no such restriction. Though for safety all my illegal activity is done via VPN because this is still a Five Eyes country.

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Post by ranger_danger » Sat, Apr 06, 2024, 10:26 PM UTC

cayde wrote: post #57

miki123211 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That must be a US thing, over here in Europe, most people just use hotspots (or cellular data) instead. That was a thing even back in my day, when LTE availability was not a given and cellular packages were much less generous.

Tethering is idiot expensive in USA. Every provider will DPI and block it or throttle it. It's awful.

very easy to bypass simply by increasing TTL by 1

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Post by karaterobot » Sat, Apr 06, 2024, 10:29 PM UTC

paulpauper wrote: post #45

VPNs: $12/month if you sign up for 200+ months for blocked IPs and slow servers and service. awesome.

Which one are you using? It's overpriced and it sounds like a bad experience. Fortunately most VPNs you'll find are cheaper and better than what you're describing!

Re: Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom

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Post by ranger_danger » Sat, Apr 06, 2024, 10:29 PM UTC

donatj wrote: post #51

Brainspackle wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Proxies and VPNs are different, that's why?

Yes, they are, and what gets sold to consumers as VPNs these days are just proxies.

I think the distinction should be that if a private IP address is allocated for you, and hence this "tunnel" is forwarding layer3 packets or lower, then it's called a VPN. A proxy would not forward IP packets directly, but something at layer4 or higher.

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 06, 2024, 10:30 PM UTC

Nifty3929 wrote: post #33

The major problem here is that our government is turning us all into criminals. Using a VPN doesn't make it legal for you to consume anonymously, even if doing so makes it harder to enforce, at least for now. Soon VPN use will be illegal in some states. Once again, hard to enforce. But these are things which, if for some reason the gov't decides to target you (in which case they can/will spend the effort to discover)…

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