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Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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I think most people are moving to vaping, which produced much, much less smell. Plus, vapour doesn't "stick" to things and make them smell forever more like smoke does. Also, edibles are really popular these days.

downside is, that people seem to think it's not smoking and start vaping inside. disgusting.

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Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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I watched other people smoke cannabis, and after producing some foul fumes, they were just passively lying on the floor with a stare of apathy. I decided to NEVER try this, and to this day I have no regrets; I enjoy being in full control of my senses (I also do not drink alcohol and do not smoke). The only thing hallucinating in my place is neural language models that I do research on. However, I do support the legal…

It feels like you are describing fentanyl. You can do a lot of enjoyable things while high and you generally don't collapse to the ground when smoking weed.

Cannabis is a tool, if you misuse it, you can waste your entire life - but it's heaps better than sugar or alchol, especially if you avoid smoking it (which destroys your lungs). Edibles or vapes are much better.

If you use it well, it can be a good aid to relax and improve your quality of life - or maybe to endure a hard time in in your life.

If it wasn't a hassle to buy it, I'd definitely vape some instead of drinking beer to relax.

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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By what means does a government have the ability to a/ take choice away, b/ give it back? Is it a moral consensus, if it is backed by force? It's simply that the whole thing is an illusion agreed upon. Or rather, stumbled into, educated into, assumed! There's no agreed consensus. Is it ok to mislead people into false beliefs? > if you think that a lawless society would afford you any freedom, you are entirely mistake…

A lawbound state gives me the freedom to live my life without being murdered by someone who knows there are no repercussions for doing so. If you think there is a good reason to allow murder, then please explain what that is. I do agree with you that many laws are overreaching, like those that prevent me from doing something with no negative effect on anyone else, just like the law we're discussing here.

To talk about 'murder', is to talk in terms of the provided lawbook - 'murder' is a criminal term. You are unable to think neutrally, your frame of reference itself has been determined for you. The term you mean I think is 'killing'.

Do you really think it is the state that is giving you freedom to live your life though? Or, could it be, that the state enables millions of immoral transgressions (tax aka stealing, etc) and calls them "right" or "good"?

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

#114
post #81

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Worse than tobacco?

Tobacco is actually more addictive than weed. I have a friend in Berlin who substituted tobacco for some herbal mix some years ago. He was a heavy smoker until then. Basically he just kept on smoking but swapped out the tobacco. A few weeks in he realized he didn't need to any more. It, smells a bit unpleasant but it got him completely off the tobacco with essentially zero effort. He rolls like one or two a day max.…

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Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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By what means does a government have the ability to a/ take choice away, b/ give it back? Is it a moral consensus, if it is backed by force? It's simply that the whole thing is an illusion agreed upon. Or rather, stumbled into, educated into, assumed! There's no agreed consensus. Is it ok to mislead people into false beliefs? > if you think that a lawless society would afford you any freedom, you are entirely mistake…

A lawbound state gives me the freedom to live my life without being murdered by someone who knows there are no repercussions for doing so. If you think there is a good reason to allow murder, then please explain what that is. I do agree with you that many laws are overreaching, like those that prevent me from doing something with no negative effect on anyone else, just like the law we're discussing here.

I think if it is only the laws that are keeping people from killing each other, we are in big trouble.

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

#116

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A lawbound state gives me the freedom to live my life without being murdered by someone who knows there are no repercussions for doing so. If you think there is a good reason to allow murder, then please explain what that is. I do agree with you that many laws are overreaching, like those that prevent me from doing something with no negative effect on anyone else, just like the law we're discussing here.

To talk about 'murder', is to talk in terms of the provided lawbook - 'murder' is a criminal term. You are unable to think neutrally, your frame of reference itself has been determined for you. The term you mean I think is 'killing'. Do you really think it is the state that is giving you freedom to live your life though? Or, could it be, that the state enables millions of immoral transgressions (tax aka stealing, etc…

> The term you mean I think is 'killing'.

Not quite; I would distinguish between killing someone against their will and not, for a start. The term "murder" does exactly that.

> the state enables millions of immoral transgressions

I don't disagree with that, but it doesn't contradict my original point.

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

#117
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I saw a man get hassled by Swedish police on a train just after crossing the Øresund Bridge. "The dog is very interested in your bag", they said. The man admitted that maybe he had smoked marijuana in Copenhagen and they left him alone. I'm sure selective enforcement is at play, but at least in my experience they didn't care.

That is not the norm. You won't get charged for smoking in Copenhagen, but it will put you in a high risk category for smuggling so their typical response here is to search you. They were probably under a high workload and had to prioritize heavily.

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Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

#118
post #57

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It's not about pollution, it's about smell.

So, it's not about a meaningful harm, it's about a subjective preference?

And apparently burning tobacco doesn't stink? Smells awful to me.

Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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post #103

I watched other people smoke cannabis, and after producing some foul fumes, they were just passively lying on the floor with a stare of apathy. I decided to NEVER try this, and to this day I have no regrets; I enjoy being in full control of my senses (I also do not drink alcohol and do not smoke). The only thing hallucinating in my place is neural language models that I do research on. However, I do support the legal…

It feels like you are describing fentanyl. You can do a lot of enjoyable things while high and you generally don't collapse to the ground when smoking weed. Cannabis is a tool, if you misuse it, you can waste your entire life - but it's heaps better than sugar or alchol, especially if you avoid smoking it (which destroys your lungs). Edibles or vapes are much better. If you use it well, it can be a good aid to relax…

they could also be describing use of some of those synthetic 'weed' varieties that were floating around everywhere in the early 2000's which were just inert plant matter sprayed with some research chemical or another. Those had some pretty wild effects on folks.
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