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Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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I agree. I remember Oxide was a balls-to-wall hardcore server "rack" soup to nuts baked by Oxide so they could provide exceptional performance and software stack. This "cloud" thing is new.

I think the core idea hasn't changed (it's generally expected that hardware like this is usually divvied up into VMs), just the branding went from 'hyperscalar for the rest of us' (which is a bit opaque to non-techies), to 'it's cloud, but in a box'.

That's correct, yes.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

#113
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I'm trying to make sense of what this is. I don't get what the unique selling point is. I understand that this is about server hosting. And from context I gather that this is about Rust. It seems that special/custom hardware is involved. And they advocate for buying instead of renting servers. But I can't figure out more than that. Who should be interested in this product? Does it make sense to compare this to AWS, G…

It seems this is mainframe (a complete, supported, vertically integrated solution), just not from IBM.

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Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Timing could’t be better. VMWare is actively firing and pissing off large swats of their customer base and basically Nutanix is the only serious alternative for onprem.

What is the total overhead (in terms of cores, memory) of the management layer with Oxide (incl. block storage, vmm, etc.)?

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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I imagine the expectation is that the company obviously needs to know how to perform regular hardware maintenance, but the hypervisor/orchestration layer should be so well integrated that it doesn't require an expert team to operate (like you would need with a self-hosted Kubernetes cluster, which is notoriously difficult to understand and operate in production). If that illusion breaks and you need to get into the w…

> self-hosted Kubernetes cluster, which is notoriously difficult to understand and operate in production). Yeah that was my reference point - cluster at home. Breaks often & hard and usually end up wiping it. Good for home use but I’d not want to rely on it for prod

What distribution are you using? I’ve been running k3os (with etcd) for about two years without issues, other than Rancher Labs dropping support for it so it’s well past EoL.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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post #99

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> self-hosted Kubernetes cluster, which is notoriously difficult to understand and operate in production). Yeah that was my reference point - cluster at home. Breaks often & hard and usually end up wiping it. Good for home use but I’d not want to rely on it for prod

What distribution are you using? I’ve been running k3os (with etcd) for about two years without issues, other than Rancher Labs dropping support for it so it’s well past EoL.

Vanilla K3s on a mixture of node types. Mostly ARM

It is a practice cluster though so I’m not exactly careful in my experimenting

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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It seems like they're vertically integrating everything from hardware to the hypervisor/orchestration layer (something that serves the same function as Kubernetes?) along with their own developer tooling for deploying and managing workloads. edit: And it seems like it's aimed at companies that don't want to pay cloud margins, but don't (yet) have the expertise to set up a production-worthy Kubernetes (or similar) clu…

The idea of a company buying an out of the box k8s because they’re not able to set it up themselves sounds insane to me. What’s the plan when it breaks? Send the server back?

    > buying an out of the box k8s because they’re not able to set it up themselves
As I understand, this is exactly the purpose of Red Hat's OpenShift. It is a layer over k8s with a friendly GUI. I use it at work, and I don't have a clue about k8s.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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OxidePad Laptop product based on Helios with NeWS Window System. When?

I know Don Hopkins hangs out here sometimes, but the big question is did NeWS source code ever get liberated from the depths of Mordoracle?

Naw, Sun never liberated it.

Sun did announced "NeWS is Free (only $1000)" which was kind of a kick in the balls and abuse of the word "free".

"Free (only $1000)" discussion on usenet:

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.windows.news/c/-G1l_372AP8/...

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.windows.news/c/YtZzYMZ587M/...

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.org.sug/c/IXcXK7hKgUQ/m/nf8...

A couple of my flames about the situation:

https://www.donhopkins.com/home/archive/NeWS/Explanation.txt

https://www.donhopkins.com/home/archive/NeWS/sevans.txt

And to cleanse the palette, DSRH's epic "Sun Deskset == Roy Lichtenstein Painting on your Bedroom Wall" flame (David SH Rosenthal was one of the original authors of NeWS, with James Gosling, and also wrote the X11 ICCCM):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38768724

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

#119
I get the hardware side.

I don't get the platform side.

What guest OS's does it support? Can you create "bare-metal" applications that run in some kind of container on it? Does this resemble a re-invented ESXi?

How does the performance and redundancy of their storage layer compare to something like GRAID?

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