Ah yes, leaky brain syndrome.
Long Covid brain fog may be due to damaged blood vessels in the brain
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#112Leaky blood brain barrier does not bode well for the future, especially with mass and repeated infections. This is associated with Alzheimer’s, dementia, and other neurodegenerstive disorders: https://www.nature.com/articles/nrneurol.2017.188
Even with this news, several in this thread are repeating that it's nothing special compared with influenza. People have turned off their minds to listen to culture war nonsense
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#113i will never understand our civilization *** up priorities. we should have spent 100+ billion dollars solving this instead of on twitter and VR.
That would have been economically damaging: where's the profit in doing that, and how would that help people get back into offices and kids into schools so the adults can stay focused at work
If we wanted billions spent on public health we can't leave it to politicians and business leaders
Re: Long Covid brain fog may be due to damaged blood vessels in the brain
#114Perhaps then we should stop ignoring the potential effects of the ongoing airborne pandemic. But no, keep f*king around with COVID, and we keep finding out.
There is no ongoing pandemic. There is now an en demic virus that's part of the regular rotation of pathogens that cause colds and flu, and covid doesn't seem particularly more dangerous than the rest (NB: influenza can be very nasty too! I'm not minimizing the harm of covid). The pandemic was a unique situation because the entire world population was immuno-naive to covid. This is no longer the case; we all get expo…
Are you saying influenza and common cold also break down the blood brain barrier? Because that is what the new news is that the OP is about.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no ongoing pandemic. There is now an en demic virus that's part of the regular rotation of pathogens that cause colds and flu, and covid doesn't seem particularly more dangerous than the rest (NB: influenza can be very nasty too! I'm not minimizing the harm of covid). The pandemic was a unique situation because the entire world population was immuno-naive to covid. This is no longer the case; we all get expo…
The difference between a pandemic and an endemic is that we don't want to stop an endemic. The virus is the same; the effects are the same but more averaged out with fewer peaks and troughs; they are just as bad.
> is that we don't want to stop an endemic.
In my opinion, there's no significant levers left to push to affect infection rates much.
Of course, we should be doing everything reasonable we can to tamp down COVID (and the flu). But short of permanent quarantine or forcing anti-vaxxers to get vaccinated, I'm not sure what there's left to do.
(It would be nice if we could socially normalize and encourage wearing a mask when one feels slightly sick, too).
Re: Long Covid brain fog may be due to damaged blood vessels in the brain
#116I’ll share an abridged long COVID story about myself since it dearly affected me. Just so other people can kind of know what the experience was like. I got sick in October 2020 before vaccines were available. After the initial 10 days which I would describe as moderate, borderline severe (6/10, where 7/10 is hospital and 9/10 is ICU) I had all manner of absolutely weird things happen to my body. I won’t go into the d…
I strongly urge anyone dealing with these issues to look into the gut biome as a source of clues and experimentation. A lot is not known about the gut biome but we're discovering many autoimmune and autoimmune-like conditions are related to it. Some things to do: get biome tests regularly, go on an elimination diet, find the right supplements, join various LC/mecfs communities doing this work. The short answer is the…
I am dealing with brand-new-to-me gut problems this year (I'm overall a fairly fit and healthy guy) and I now completely understand why people seek all kinds of zany alternative pseudoscientific treatments: we have next to no idea what we're doing when it comes to gut health and wellness, and the personal impact can be enormous. I am fortunately able to continue working, but many or most people are not so fortunate and truly struggle, and financial and personal difficulties can hit fast and hard when you can't function the way you need to. So many people in the United States are desperate and have so few options. Our health and employment problems in this country are not just a tragedy but a crisis that has been growing for many years.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm fascinated by people's inner monologues (I don't have one), so forgive my curiosity: is what you describe a bad thing? Have you noticed changes in your patterns of reasoning?
And I am fascinated by people _not_ having inner monologues, as I do have a very active inner voice. For me having inner voice is like one part of me does the talking, the other does the listening. If other people could listen, they would probably say that I'm a crazy dude, doing all that talk. When I see people talking loud, I call them crazy, thank god I do not project my voice outwards! But sometimes, things come…
For me my internal monologue is replaced by almost entirely images. For example, if I'm learning about something in a programming language I'm mentally diagramming components and imagining how data structures are laid out as a network of items. To the extent that I do verbal thinking while programming it's usually just a internal vocalization for an interjection I would otherwise be tempted to say out loud like "why the fuck is this not working, this SDK is trash". And I only say it to myself internally so as not to interrupt other people around me.
For other things that are less abstract, with a concrete real world appearance, I'm constantly visualizing the outcome like I'm looking at a picture or watching a movie. This also applies to the "things that come to my mind without talking", which you mention. They drift into appearance in my mind as images as well.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course, happy to discuss. You have me stumped though, I actually can't articulate how I work. If what I'm doing requires extreme care, such as pushing configuration updates to production, I will mentally say out loud what I'm planning to do (probably something similar to [0]), but calling that voice is a conscious effort. Normally I'll follow a vague "feeling" of what needs to happen. I think my mind works directl…
Wait, you have no "inner voice" at all? I don't understand. Thought experiment: You go to a wall and there is a picture hanging on the wall. You like the picture. Can you "say" in your head without using your voice/mouth "I like this picture"? If you have to use your voice, can you mimic the tongue movement without moving your mouth and "hear" the words without making a sound?
For me it's like my head has a large cluster of art that I've seen, all organized. It is the "memory palace" basically, if you've heard of that approach to memorizing things. Except my memory palace is very, very large, and it has an area for art that I've seen.
If I appreciate a piece of art then it goes into my memory palace collection in a room that groups it together with other similar pieces of art that I had a similar appreciation for. As I appreciate the piece of art my memory palace branches out from there in many directions. I'm recalling other similar pieces of art (how does this art rank compared to other pieces I've appreciated). I'm recalling other pieces of art by the same artist (how did this art compare to their other works). I'm recalling similar artists of the time period (how did this work compare to art by contemporary artists). I'm imagining the techniques that were used to make the art, whether dramatic and physical (splashes of paint in a modern art piece) or precise and delicate (such as the fine brush strokes). This is the process of appreciation I feel.
Basically, the "I like this picture" is a very visual experience for me, not a vocal experience at all. If I did not like the picture then I just look at it, have an internal feeling of "meh" or "boredom" and do not put any effort into memorization or related recall and connectivity of the memory.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course, happy to discuss. You have me stumped though, I actually can't articulate how I work. If what I'm doing requires extreme care, such as pushing configuration updates to production, I will mentally say out loud what I'm planning to do (probably something similar to [0]), but calling that voice is a conscious effort. Normally I'll follow a vague "feeling" of what needs to happen. I think my mind works directl…
Wait, you have no "inner voice" at all? I don't understand. Thought experiment: You go to a wall and there is a picture hanging on the wall. You like the picture. Can you "say" in your head without using your voice/mouth "I like this picture"? If you have to use your voice, can you mimic the tongue movement without moving your mouth and "hear" the words without making a sound?
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Re: Long Covid brain fog may be due to damaged blood vessels in the brain
#120Recently read an article suggesting that we should drop the term Long Covid, as it implies that there is something unique about it, when the research seems to show that the impairment post-Covid is very similar to that from Influenza: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/15/long-covid-s...
Given how poorly-understood post-viral stuff is _in general_, lumping them together at this point feels extremely premature.