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The Coming Meltdown In College Education & Why The Economy Won’t Get Better Soon
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#112Mark Cuban writes: "As an employer I want the best prepared and qualified employees. I could care less if the source of their education was accredited by a bunch of old men and women who think they know what is best for the world. I want people who can do the job. I want the best and brightest. Not a piece of paper." So, I suppose I could be wrong, but I would be willing to bet a great deal of money that Mark Cuban d…
False. Many of the Mavericks players do not have college degrees.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination If he can afford to pay twice as much and did so then the school was wise to raise it's sticker price. They can then take the 'surplus' that he paid and use it to reduce the price of a more desirable students who are less able to pay.
>reduce the price of a more desirable students who are less able to pay. A very small percentage of the total financial aid comes directly from the school, so this is not what is happening. The vast majority of financial aid is from the state and federal government which is not financed by tuition. They are using the extra money by and large to fund additional administration expenses, a new football team and other pr…
They are using the extra money by and large to fund additional administration expenses, a new football team and other prestige projects in order to boost the perceived status of the school.
The really fun thing being that all the students, faculty, alumni, and graduate-students hate this shit. If there's all that money floating around, why not pay TAs and RAs something above the poverty line? Why not hire more faculty?
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not trying to complain since it looks like a good program, but why does Dev Bootcamp lump Jquery, Coffeescript, SASS, HAML, AJAX, and others under Advanced Rails Technologies? Shouldn't that be Advanced Web Technologies or are they just simplifying things for their Rails program?
They have a course in Advanced Rails Technologies? What kind of damned idiot takes "Advanced Rails Technologies"?
Did you take a course called Advanced Rails Techologies? Did you take the course in question and find it lacking? If not, you shouldn't insult people you don't know who might be interested in such a program.
How about you explain, nicely please, why taking something called Advanced Rails Technologies is a bad thing?
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#115During the early part of my working life I had the experience of not getting a job due to the fact that I did not have a degree. It was a junior embedded programming job.
I was 19 and just getting going with the college thing. The guy that got the job had a degree in landscaping and had taught himself some programming with an 8085 board that was popular at the time. I know because the owner of the joint was kind enough to tell me.
I was probably too young to put-up a fight and state my case with authority. By the time this interview came about I had probably built and programmed no less than eight computers of my own design. I had programmed in assembler and written my own Forth compiler. I probably knew the architectures of nearly every popular microprocessor available at the time (80xx, 65xx, 68xxx). I had been an electronics hobbyist since probably the age of 13. I knew more and had certainly done more than the aforementioned job-robbing landscaper.
Again, I'll mark that off to, at 19, not having the chops to state my case and fight to demonstrate that I was the better candidate. As it turns out a few months later, as luck would have it, I would land an entry level engineering job where skills and work ethic were valued far more than anything else. I rose to a level of being solely responsible for multi-million dollar engineering projects while still attending school.
In my case it turned out OK in the end. The issue is that a degree is a check-mark item that a lot of companies use for filtering. Just one look through job on Monster and you can see that lots of them have degrees as minimum requirements. If you are dealing through an agency you might not get past the first filter, no matter what you know and what you've done.
In the case of Mr. Cuban, it'd be interesting to hear about examples where his organization has hired people in spite of not having a degree from a traditional institution.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not trying to complain since it looks like a good program, but why does Dev Bootcamp lump Jquery, Coffeescript, SASS, HAML, AJAX, and others under Advanced Rails Technologies? Shouldn't that be Advanced Web Technologies or are they just simplifying things for their Rails program?
They have a course in Advanced Rails Technologies? What kind of damned idiot takes "Advanced Rails Technologies"?
"Adv. Rails tech" is just one part of the single course which aims to get someone a job in 10 weeks as a web developer ... from the looks of this they have been fairly successful ...
http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/10/dev-boot-camp-is-a-ruby-suc...
but its actually hard to get into the course - they take only those who they think will pass and who are motivated enough.
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#117This was the first comment on Cuban's blog. Can anyone comment on it? I listened to the NPR Podcast, it is specific to private colleges; I am not sure how public colleges fit in. "The most recent Planet Money on NPR was about the cost of college. [1] They point out that the price that has been rising is the “sticker price.” However, the average price a student pays for college hasn’t risen (except to adjust for infla…
>The reason student loan debt has ballooned isn’t because students are paying more. That's not true, I've seen numerous articles on the cost of public colleges increasing much faster than inflation. Anecdote: I dropped out of Georgia State in 2007, I'm going back now to finish my last few semesters of a math degree. The cost has more than doubled in the last 5 years.
State contributions to higher education (via taxes) have dropped dramatically in recent decades [1]. Ergo, tuition increases. (Universities drive up costs themselves, too, of course.)
Back in 1961, state tuition at UNC was less than $100 [2].
[1] http://www.amazon.com/Unmaking-Public-University-Forty-Year-... [2] http://www.quickanded.com/2012/04/virginia-foxx-paid-87-50-i...
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem I have with this is that university should NOT prepare you for the work force . Universities are awesome! We ruined them when we started thinking of higher education as preparation (or even requirement) for the workforce. University should prepare you to be a thinker, a scientist and just generally an educated person. As soon as it becomes vocational the whole point is lost. We don't need to "fix higher e…
Great. They fail at that too. There have been a few studies that show that after 2 years of college, the difference in reading, writing, math, and critical thinking are negligible. So if you're not good for the industry, you're terrible at what you're made for, what good are you?
So if you're not good for the industry, you're terrible at what you're made for, what good are you?
Excuse me? Industries were made for people, not the other way around.
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#119Mark Cuban writes: "As an employer I want the best prepared and qualified employees. I could care less if the source of their education was accredited by a bunch of old men and women who think they know what is best for the world. I want people who can do the job. I want the best and brightest. Not a piece of paper." So, I suppose I could be wrong, but I would be willing to bet a great deal of money that Mark Cuban d…
False. Many of the Mavericks players do not have college degrees.
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They have a course in Advanced Rails Technologies? What kind of damned idiot takes "Advanced Rails Technologies"?
Did you take a course called Advanced Rails Techologies? Did you take the course in question and find it lacking? If not, you shouldn't insult people you don't know who might be interested in such a program. How about you explain, nicely please, why taking something called Advanced Rails Technologies is a bad thing?
How about you explain, nicely please, why taking something called Advanced Rails Technologies is a bad thing?
Because "Rails Technologies" have changed drastically in the past 5 years and do so again in the next 5 years. "Modern Web Programming" would have been a good course. "Advanced Rails Technologies" is so ridiculously over-specific and over-current that I simply can't see how it has any value for the future.