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Ordinary psychotic Americans who get upset at me if I ask if I need to take my computer out and put it in a bin? Not sure it’s doing a good job at that.
Not too long ago I got yelled at for leaving my laptop in bag, because the TSA agent was telling everyone to leave them in, but that was only for the line one over from me.
Can We Just Throw in the Towel on Airport Security Theater Already?
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've watched enough YouTube videos, I don't think it's working.
Last year TSA intercepted almost seven thousand firearms at security checkpoints, 93% of which were loaded. So take all those crazy people, then add firearms into their vicinity, or a firearm into the hands of a well-meaning but panicking co-passenger now trying to "secure" a crowd of 300 people 30,000 feet in the air.
“The majority of folks” who are found with firearms “are what we call low-risk passengers,” Jeffries said. “These are your more frequent travelers. They’re the ones usually in PreCheck. I don’t think there’s any malicious intent. The number one thing that we would hear out there, and I’m sure it still stands to this day, is, ‘I forgot it was in my bag.’”
This maybe more a reflection of how many people in the US own guns and less about people intending to stage some kind of shootout at the airport.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2024/03/03/did-ts...
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Last year TSA intercepted almost seven thousand firearms at security checkpoints, 93% of which were loaded. So take all those crazy people, then add firearms into their vicinity, or a firearm into the hands of a well-meaning but panicking co-passenger now trying to "secure" a crowd of 300 people 30,000 feet in the air.
Here's a brief article I found about this. They talked to a former security director at LAX who says... “The majority of folks” who are found with firearms “are what we call low-risk passengers,” Jeffries said. “These are your more frequent travelers. They’re the ones usually in PreCheck. I don’t think there’s any malicious intent. The number one thing that we would hear out there, and I’m sure it still stands to thi…
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a detterence factor in play. Terrorists won't try to get through precisely because of the intense security.
Six people each bring 50ml tooth paste on a plane, after take off, they combine it to 300ml. What are you gonna do.
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#115Just stop with the stupid/useless take off your shoes, and take your laptops/ipads out of your bags, and I'm fine with the rest.
It seems most airports have stopped asking for devices and toiletries to be removed from your bag. That’s been a nice upgrade.
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#116It's a job program. End of story.
Yes but can we get them to stand somewhere else or do anything else instead of providing negative value? Is there really no job of moderate status that isn't too physically demanding and actually needs doing?
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Last year TSA intercepted almost seven thousand firearms at security checkpoints, 93% of which were loaded. So take all those crazy people, then add firearms into their vicinity, or a firearm into the hands of a well-meaning but panicking co-passenger now trying to "secure" a crowd of 300 people 30,000 feet in the air.
Here's a brief article I found about this. They talked to a former security director at LAX who says... “The majority of folks” who are found with firearms “are what we call low-risk passengers,” Jeffries said. “These are your more frequent travelers. They’re the ones usually in PreCheck. I don’t think there’s any malicious intent. The number one thing that we would hear out there, and I’m sure it still stands to thi…
Drunk guy with gun is a huge problem.
Sleep-deprived guy with gun is a huge problem.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
We…we did. For 87 years of air travel we did. Went pretty darn good. People seemed to have fun with it. They even looked forward to flights. What an odd comment.
Did we? Between 1968-1972 there were 130 hijackings in the US alone. In 1973 the FAA required passenger screening (I don’t know why people are saying screening began in 2001, the TSA was formed and updated screening procedures, but people were definitely already being screened). From 1973 on, hijacking’s dropped considerably. Since 2001 there have been no hijackings in the US. Your comment is the odd one.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a detterence factor in play. Terrorists won't try to get through precisely because of the intense security.
Six people each bring 50ml tooth paste on a plane, after take off, they combine it to 300ml. What are you gonna do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_transatlantic_aircraft_pl... -- details that emerged during the trial, and the conclusion reported by El Reg: https://www.theregister.com/2008/09/10/liquid_bomb_verdicts/
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not the same level, you don't have to take off your shoes for example. In some airports (like in Haneda) you don't even have to pull anything out of your bag. Bag on the conveyor belt, yourself through the gate and you're done.
That sounds like TSA Precheck, which doing a basic background check to get seems very reasonable.