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Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by vishnumohandas »

adithyassekhar wrote: post #105
lakpan wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You plug your phone in at night, so it probably has 7 hours a day to do that work. iOS does the same. They cannot do it on the server because they don’t have access to them.

I am aware of the why, it's claimed to be e2e. But then it shouldn't be touted as a "pro" when compared to Google Photos which the site's home page is asking me to do. Hence the question. As for iOS, Apple controls the whole stack. Whatever ML they do, they do it only on devices capable of that level of ML. I can buy the cheapest android I can find with a 10 year old mediatek processor and search for pictures of my d…

Hey, one of the folks building Ente here.

We have to pick our battles, and we currently aren't looking at serving customers on low-end devices. But if they access Ente on a laptop, the indexing will run there, and the computed indexes will sync to their low-end devices, e2ee.

Also, given that compute on smart phones is getting better and cheaper with every iteration, we believe it's best to bet on Edge ML for the long term.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by kosolam »

vishnumohandas wrote: post #107
kosolam wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s good to hear. Do you forsee the 2tb plan getting cheaper in the future?

Not unless our existing providers provide a volume discount, or we start managing some of the infrastructure (1/3 replicas) ourselves. The latter is very likely in the long run.

I hope you will grow and start running your infrastructure. It seems that you have a strong technical team. Just curious, did you take any funding so far?

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by vishnumohandas »

vishnumohandas wrote: post #32

Hey, Ente's CEO here. We had opensourced our server[1] yesterday, which is perhaps why we are on the front page. Stoked to be here Ente had launched on HN[2] a while ago and has been sustainably growing since. We took the feedback from our Show HN seriously and have since - undergone a cryptography audit [3] - published our replication strategy [4] - added requested features (family plans, collaborative albums and li…

sorry for the eye sore, if someone can split the bullet points into multiple lines, please do, I'm unable to edit my comment

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by vishnumohandas »

kosolam wrote: post #112
vishnumohandas wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not unless our existing providers provide a volume discount, or we start managing some of the infrastructure (1/3 replicas) ourselves. The latter is very likely in the long run.

I hope you will grow and start running your infrastructure. It seems that you have a strong technical team. Just curious, did you take any funding so far?

Friends and founders ("angels"), no VC.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by deanc »

sen wrote: post #41
robertwt7 wrote: post #25

The best decision for me is still to buy synology and store everything locally on Synology photos. No subscription, expandable storage, and full privacy. It is 100% worth the extra $ if you plan on subscribing for a loong time anyway

Yeah I tried all sorts of photo services and ended up going for a Synology. You can pick them up very cheap in sales and don’t need the fastest drives or the latest CPUs if you’re only doing photo stuff and not transcoding HTPC media. With RAID and offsite backups it’s a solid and cheap (over time) system, and I don’t have to worry about some service getting bought out or shutting down.

Sales. This must be an American thing. Have never seen any decent discounts on them here in Europe.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by jpeeler »

vishnumohandas wrote: post #35
infogulch wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to have been open sourced very recently.

Hey, one of the folks working on Ente here. Our clients were always open source, we published the code to our server[1] into a monorepo[2] just yesterday. [1]: https://ente.io/blog/open-sourcing-our-server/ [2]: https://github.com/ente-io/ente

Do said clients have the ability to specify a custom endpoint? Obviously with the clients being open source a rebuild can fix that, but hoping that's not required.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by js4ever »

mavamaarten wrote: post #30
bovem wrote: post #8

The UI looks great. Couldn't find any info about self hosting but I did find a feature request in GitHub Issues [1]. I guess I'll stick with Immich [2] for now. Edit: Found a Reddit AMA [3] from the CEO and I'm happy to know that self hosting is a goal in the long run. [1] https://github.com/ente-io/ente/issues/141 [2] https://immich.app/ [3] https://old.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/116fx9v/ama_im_vi...

I'm really happy with immich. It's amazing how well everything works and how feature-complete it is given how relatively young the project is and fast-moving development is going. I self-host an instance and do a nightly backup with duplicati to cloud storage. The only downside for me is that there's a new release almost every couple of days, with a message that the backend is out of date. Which is both a pro and a c…

I can confirm there is a breaking change literally every single week, check here: https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/7405#discus...

It's a great software but I would not recommend it at all because of this and the answer from the authors about the issue

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by random_ind_dude »

keerthiko wrote: post #53
vishnumohandas wrote: post #32

Hey, Ente's CEO here. We had opensourced our server[1] yesterday, which is perhaps why we are on the front page. Stoked to be here Ente had launched on HN[2] a while ago and has been sustainably growing since. We took the feedback from our Show HN seriously and have since - undergone a cryptography audit [3] - published our replication strategy [4] - added requested features (family plans, collaborative albums and li…

Tangential, is this intended to be pronounced like "എന്റെ", judging by your HN handle? Stoked to run into a fellow mallu founder of a consumer product. A huge fan of how the product/business is being run.

എന്റെ.അയ്യോ to be exact. :D (എന്റെ means mine, and അയ്യോ is a word used to express surprise). I remember the Show HN and I'm glad to see them grow.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by stockhorn »

I gave the webapp and android app a quick test. It looks nice, but it is still not as smooth as google photos or similar. E.g. the photos are not preloaded fully and I still need to wait a few milliseconds to get a photo fully rendered. (Also there is some white flickering when swiping through the photos on android)

I wonder how the big players do it. Of course they have a lot more manpower, but maybe the also have some clever caching/rendering lib..?

Kudos for doing this and opensourcing everything. I really appreciate this and I might stick around.

Re: Ente: Open-Source, E2E Encrypted, Google Photos Alternative

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Post by lakpan »

adithyassekhar wrote: post #105
lakpan wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You plug your phone in at night, so it probably has 7 hours a day to do that work. iOS does the same. They cannot do it on the server because they don’t have access to them.

I am aware of the why, it's claimed to be e2e. But then it shouldn't be touted as a "pro" when compared to Google Photos which the site's home page is asking me to do. Hence the question. As for iOS, Apple controls the whole stack. Whatever ML they do, they do it only on devices capable of that level of ML. I can buy the cheapest android I can find with a 10 year old mediatek processor and search for pictures of my d…

> when compared to Google Photos

You’re comparing apples to oranges. Google Photos is not E2E. Explain how you can do ML without having the key. Either you hand them the key or you don’t.

Of course they mention it as an alternative to Google and Apple Photos, but that doesn’t imply that they have 100% of the feature set of each.

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