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Re: Mistral Large

#111

If anyone from the Mistral team is here, I just signed up for an account and went to subscribe; after the Stripe payment form, I was redirected to stripe.com - not back to Mistral's dashboard. After I went through the subscribe flow again it says "You have successfully subscribed to Mistral AI's API. Welcome! Your API keys will be activated in a few minutes." instead of sending me to Stripe, so everything is working…

Thanks for the report!

Re: Mistral Large

#112

Pricing input: $8/1M tokens output: $24/1M tokens https://docs.mistral.ai/platform/pricing/

Compared to GPT4, which is $10/$30 for turbo and $30/$60 for the flagship https://openai.com/pricing

gpt4 isn't the flagship any more. GPT-4 Turbo is advertised as being faster, supporting longer input contexts, having a later cut-off date, and scoring higher in reasoning.

There are some (few) valid reasons to use base gpt4 model, but that doesn't make it the flagship by any means.

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Looks like open-source is just a marketing tool for AI companies before they have a good enough model to sell. I guess we have to look for what Meta is going to do with LlaMA 3.

How is this a problem? So many companies have been founded around premium versions of open-source products. It's good that they've even given us as much as they have. They have to make the economics work somehow.

It’s a significant problem when “Open Source” is used as an enticement to convince people to work on and improve their product for free, especially when that product inevitably relicenses that work using a sham of a “rewriting” process to claim ownership as though it voids all the volunteer’s efforts that went into design, debug, and other changes, just so that source can be switched to a proprietary license to make the product more VC/IPO friendly. And all of that cuts the knees out of the companies you claim it created in order to capture a portion of their profits despite the fact that they most likely contributed to the popularity and potentially even the development, and therefore success, of said “Open Source”.

IMO, it is just a new version of wage/code theft with a “public good” side-story to convince the gullible that it is somehow “better” and “fair”, when everyone involved were making money, just not as much money as they could be taking with a little bit of court-supported code theft and a hand-waive of “volunteerism”.

Re: Mistral Large

#115
The "Maths and Coding" svg doesn't load for me in Firefox, directly or in its own tab. I just get a blank canvas.

EDIT: Actually, I tried to download it and convert to a PNG and it's still a white image. So it might not be on my end.

Re: Mistral Large

#116
post #113

I just added support for the new models to my https://github.com/simonw/llm-mistral plugin for my LLM CLI tool. You can now do this: pipx install llm llm install llm-mistral llm keys set mistral llm -m mistral-large 'prompt goes here'

does `llm install llm-mistral` also upgrade if already installed?

Re: Mistral Large

#117
I don't see any comparisons between mistral-large and the previous mistral-medium, which would be great to figure out if it's worth the significant increase in spend or not.

Re: Mistral Large

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open source means "the preferred version for modification" and this fits with model weights since you can fine tune them with your own data. Modifying raw training data would be quite unwieldly and pointless.

It's possible to modify binary executables; doesn't make them open-source.

Isn't this comparison completely backwards? As I understand it, it's useless for a person to own a source dataset for an LLM, because its "compilation" costs $n million.

Re: Mistral Large

#119

I appreciate the honesty in the marketing materials. Showing the product scoring below the market leader in a big benchmark is better than the Google way of cherry picking benchmarks.

They compare to Gemini Pro 1.0...

Seems intentionally misleading.

Re: Mistral Large

#120
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Im not sure if anyone cares about my opinion, but I think its worth mentioning that of all the models, Mixtral is IMO the best, and I do not know what Id do without it. Fantastic news, thank you.

I've tried a bunch of models both online and offline and mixtral is the first one which avtively has me reaching for it instead of Google when I'm wondering about something. I also love how well it works locally with ollama.

I still sometimes need to double-check its answers and be critical of its responses. But when I want to confirm the answer I suspect, or know the gist of it but want more details, I find it invaluable.

It seems especially really strong in areas of science and computing. However, it consistently gives plausible but incorrect information when asked about Swedish art and culture. Though it does speak really good Swedish!

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