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Re: Doorway effect

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Post by Sharlin »

0xEF wrote: post #100
Sharlin wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. People are gravitating towards spaces that make them feel comfortable and safe, subconsciously or not, when engaging in the sort of intimate interactions that an in-depth conversation can be. One practical consideration that probably also often plays a part is acoustics, literally how easy it is to hear and to be heard.

Very interesting to think about, considering my anxiety tends to push me in the opposite direction, so I favore less crowded spaces or less physical closeness to other people. The acoustic component is worth diving into, to me, since this is a big trigger. If the space is too loud, or cacophonous, I end up starting to lose higher-order functioning and have to vacate or wear my earplugs/noise-canceling headphones and…

Yeah, the acoustics definitely depend on the space, but often it's easier to talk next to a wall, or of course if there's a main source of noise, somewhere away from it, like in a hallway.

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Post by starkrights »

posnet wrote: post #69

Have you ever walked into a room and found a vampire? No, not the sexy kind, but a foul creature with bony limbs and ashen skin? The kind that snarls as you enter, like a beast about to pounce? The kind that roots you to the spot with its sunken, hypnotic eyes, rendering you unable to flee as you watch the hideous thing uncoil from the shadows? Has your heart started racing though your legs refuse to? Have you felt t…

Entirely off topic, but that post is borderline history. The commenter’s second-most-upvoted poster being u/unidan, to positive reaction? What a time.

Re: Doorway effect

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Post by lxgr »

posnet wrote: post #69

Have you ever walked into a room and found a vampire? No, not the sexy kind, but a foul creature with bony limbs and ashen skin? The kind that snarls as you enter, like a beast about to pounce? The kind that roots you to the spot with its sunken, hypnotic eyes, rendering you unable to flee as you watch the hideous thing uncoil from the shadows? Has your heart started racing though your legs refuse to? Have you felt t…

Very related: There Is No Antimemetics Division (https://qntm.org/scp)

    An antimeme is an idea with self-censoring properties; an idea which, by its intrinsic nature, discourages or prevents people from spreading it.

    Antimemes are real. Think of any piece of information which you wouldn't share with anybody, like passwords, taboos and dirty secrets. Or any piece of information which would be difficult to share even if you tried: complex equations, very boring passages of text, large blocks of random numbers, and dreams...

    But anomalous antimemes are another matter entirely. How do you contain something you can't record or remember? How do you fight a war against an enemy with effortless, perfect camouflage, when you can never even know that you're at war?

    Welcome to the Antimemetics Division.

    No, this is not your first day.

Re: Doorway effect

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Post by tetris11 »

fensgrim wrote: post #110
posnet wrote: post #69

Have you ever walked into a room and found a vampire? No, not the sexy kind, but a foul creature with bony limbs and ashen skin? The kind that snarls as you enter, like a beast about to pounce? The kind that roots you to the spot with its sunken, hypnotic eyes, rendering you unable to flee as you watch the hideous thing uncoil from the shadows? Has your heart started racing though your legs refuse to? Have you felt t…

On topic of this specific kind of vampire, see also: Blindsight, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindsight_(Watts_novel)

Or, the energy vampires from the What We Do in the Shadows TV series:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_We_Do_in_the_Shadows_(TV_...

(Ctrl-F) "Colin Robinson"

Re: Doorway effect

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Post by NeoTar »

You clearly need "Jan Hankl's Flank Pat System" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY-Zdgo0OXo

[Spoilers - To avoid people having to watch the whole video, it's a Mitchell and Webb sketch about how clapping your hands against your thighs helps you locate books on a bookshelf. Towards the end of the video it shows how making a 'scissors' motion with your fingers helps you find scissors.

Although a joke, a physical motion like patting your flanks or making a scissors motion can help you keep your planned activity in mind]

Re: Doorway effect

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Post by SoftTalker »

hnlmorg wrote: post #38

TOTP 2FA is terrible for this. I’ll sign into a website, pick my phone up to read the TOTP code, and instead end up on HN or Signal or something. Put the phone down after a couple of minutes, look back up to my computer screen with the 2FA prompt and go “oh yeah, that’s why I looked at my phone” That happens probably 50% of the time. And I wish that was an exaggeration.

Why don't more sites ask for the username/password and the TOTP code on the same form? Is there a downside to that approach? I've only seen it done that way rarely.

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Post by SubiculumCode »

Context changes impose substantial cognitive costs, disrupting reaction times, perception, and attention maintenance, and yes, memory. Context has a huge role in memory, and context shifts can lead you to not recognize familar people, like encountering your college professor at a dinner party.

The ability to perform in spite of context changes improves over childhood into adolescence, but the costs remain there and will become more pronounced as working memory loads or task demands increase.

Those who design GUIs should really take this into account. When, for example, clicking on a menu replaces the whole screen, like a version of Windows experimented with on the start menu, the complete context change imposes real costs on cognition.

I apologize for not providing citations, but a google scholar search will quickly provide relevant materials; this comment was written from what I learned in my PhD studies on the development of memory.

Re: Doorway effect

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Post by SubiculumCode »

xpe wrote: post #13

Many psychological studies sound convincing but are hard to replicate and/or based on low sample sizes or poor experimental design. Seeing a plausible mechanism underlying a theory isn’t enough. So I’m writing this comment as a placeholder. Who here has checked the source studies? Roughly speaking what is the total number of people in all studies pertaining to this claimed effect?

There is an absolutely vast literature studying the effects of context and context changes on many different forms of cognition, going back decades. Your posts really adds little of value, and relies on some over-broad stereotypes of the soundness of psychology research. Do some google scholar searches.
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