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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by alphabetting »

ipsum2 wrote: post #93
alphabetting wrote: post #83

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

Note that Gemini pulled the answer off the Internet, while GPT-4 didn't. The answer can easily be found via Google search. Changing up the question a little, I reversed it and asked Ultra and it was unable to answer: Jake likes coke but not pepsi. He likes corn but not popcorn, and he likes pens but not pencils. Will Jake like salmon or cheese? https://i.imgur.com/lWU9HHS.png edit: why was this downvoted? I don't und…

Here's a logic question I just made up that GPT-4 failed and Gemini Advanced got right.

https://i.imgur.com/3sNr3LW.png https://i.imgur.com/EIj0nZg.png

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by euazOn »

_njyk wrote: post #56
Klaster_1 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, other people should have an account associated with the same country as your account. Discovered this the hard way when my parents no longer could renew their Google Photo storage because of the sanctions.

One anecdote, I live in one of the European countries that put sanctions onto yours, and I cannot use many Google of services either. This European country simply doesn't exist in many of the Google forms, despite being on the "good side" and being no different than Finland or Germany.

Which is it? Andorra?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by diggan »

alphabetting wrote: post #83

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

With some additional guidance and prompting to GPT4 on ChatGPT I've gotten it to at least output the correct solution sometimes (7 correct answers out of 10 tries):

    Find the correct answer to this riddle:

    > Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears?

    Employ the following strategy:

    - Suggest a list of 5 unique and novel patterns that potentially can find the answer
    - Check if the patterns applies without exceptions
    - Slowly double-check if the patterns was correctly applied, that you correctly assessed if it's accurate or not
    - Explain your reasoning for each step to ensure nothing vital was missed

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by nolok »

naikrovek wrote: post #76
nolok wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use any cloud storage, including others like dropbox or icloud, you must always assume that. Whether you're a business or an individual.

Why? It’s not an unsolvable inherent problem. You pay for cloud storage so you don’t have to think about these things. If you’re saying that one should pay for cloud storage and still worry about these things, then you’re trading money for a service which provides nothing, or at least you’re paying for a service which provides no real utility. You’re trading money for nothing. If anyone thinks that’s a normal transac…

What I'm saying is that you think you paid for something different than what you actually pay for if you look in the actual contract.

Check by yourself : whatever your provider is, without looking, can you say what guarantee they give you that your file won't be deleted randomly ? Do you think it's stronger than "best effort but no % written" ? Then go check what it actually says.

I'm not saying I think it's a good state of affairs, I'm european and part of the crowd that cheered when ISP got smacked for abusing "unlimited" in their ads while the contract said different.

But parent's comment I'm answering too can at best be seen as a warning that specifically google storage can make your files disapear in some rare cases, if that matters to you enough then you need to know the same is true for all the big others.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by nolok »

nazgul17 wrote: post #77
nolok wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use any cloud storage, including others like dropbox or icloud, you must always assume that. Whether you're a business or an individual.

No, you would assign a probability to the event. And that probability would be higher for a Google product.

I would disagree with you, my personnal anecdotal data showing google to be more reliable at it than others. In the lack of hard properly collected data, this give all of them the same probability. I'm sure someone out there thought "let's use microsoft skydrive because google is unreliable".

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by alphabetting »

rvnx wrote: post #97
alphabetting wrote: post #83

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

Proof of Gemini cheating: https://i.imgur.com/eYJDFjS.png Answer about cherries falling from the sky... (there is no question or context beforehand, this is the first question of the chat)

That's a bummer. I just made this one up which GPT-4 failed and Gemini got right but definitely need to do more testing to see what's being taken from online and what is actual reasoning.

https://i.imgur.com/3sNr3LW.png https://i.imgur.com/EIj0nZg.png

Edit: When I did your prompt it got it right on the first try fwiwi https://i.imgur.com/E3zYEca.png

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by dobladov »

I would be willing to pay for an AI that it's not constantly worrying about my safety and ethics, it's very frustrating that even when I ask for tech related topics, Gemini it's holding information on the basis of actions that might cause harm to my devices.
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