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Re: www.google.com – The page is blank when accessed

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Post by Kuinox »

AH4oFVbPT4f8 wrote: post #70
fxtentacle wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I actually use Kagi both on my Laptop and on my Firefox on Android. It has one killer feature: you can block Pinterest from spamming your results.

Blocking domains is big part of why I use Kagi, I wish they should share their top blocked domains or make it that people can share their blocked domains to help others. They have this https://kagi.com/stats , but I'd like something I can import into my own settings to use.

You mean this page ? https://kagi.com/stats?stat=leaderboard

The top 7 blocked domain are just pinterest.

Re: www.google.com – The page is blank when accessed

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Post by devnullbrain »

diggan wrote: post #95
Draiken wrote: post #93

Another reason to stop using Google. Don't waste the opportunity! Switched to DDG ages ago, and even though it's not amazing, it's already better than Google. Although, if we're honest, searching these days is absolutely atrocious everywhere. Any keyword search will only net you ads or "top X" articles full of SEO garbage most likely written by AI at this point...

The only thing that I've found that works properly for my use case (regularly switching between three locales and languages) is Kaggle with the lenses. The only thing missing is disconnecting the locale from the language so I can have proper decimal characters but still search for US-specific things. Right now, I have to chose between having 10,000.10 or 10.000,10 and what language/region I'm searching, together, whi…

Do you mean Kagi?

Re: www.google.com – The page is blank when accessed

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Post by freedomben »

diggan wrote: post #95
Draiken wrote: post #93

Another reason to stop using Google. Don't waste the opportunity! Switched to DDG ages ago, and even though it's not amazing, it's already better than Google. Although, if we're honest, searching these days is absolutely atrocious everywhere. Any keyword search will only net you ads or "top X" articles full of SEO garbage most likely written by AI at this point...

The only thing that I've found that works properly for my use case (regularly switching between three locales and languages) is Kaggle with the lenses. The only thing missing is disconnecting the locale from the language so I can have proper decimal characters but still search for US-specific things. Right now, I have to chose between having 10,000.10 or 10.000,10 and what language/region I'm searching, together, whi…

I think "Kaggle" is supposed to be Kagi but was typoed or autocorrected or something? (If not and you're talkign about Kaggle the ML/AI company, please disregard)

I also use Kagi lenses and it's been good, though for me the killer Kagi feature is being able to uprank/downrank/pin/block domains. Such an obvious and simple feature, such a powerful effect.

There is a psychological barrier to overcome in paying for searches, but once you get past that, Kagi makes a ton of sense. I suspect the reason Google never implemented personalized search results (like Kagi's where you can uprank/downrank domains) is because it's not about what you see, it's about what they show you. i.e. ads.

Re: www.google.com – The page is blank when accessed

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Post by fooqux »

NekkoDroid wrote: post #107
mglz wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For people who don't know them yet: use DDG bangs. For example "!m restaurant [citynmae]" will immediately bring you to Google maps, "!w chemistry" will open Wikipedia etc. Super easy and powerful :)

Setting stuff up for that in any browser worth it's salt isn't too difficult, skipping the entire middleman of any search engine.

But it's already set up for you in DDG, so why not use it?

Aside from the fact it's another HTTP request, but these days on the majority of computers and connections, that's a trivial thing.

I'll add that !aw to search the Arch Wiki and !aur to search the AUR are my two most favorite commands.

Re: www.google.com – The page is blank when accessed

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Post by striking »

bigbillheck wrote: post #103
Uptrenda wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

A bit of searching suggests that this individual is the same 'robertsdotpm' who posted that "b-bazinga" comment, or at least is closely associated with them.

Good catch. No wonder their comment sounded so defensive, they're the bad guy!

Re: www.google.com – The page is blank when accessed

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Post by Moldoteck »

robin_reala wrote: post #110
Thorrez wrote: post #102

Google is tracking the incident here: https://status.search.google.com/incidents/hySMmncEDZ7Xpaf9i... Disclosure: I work at Google but not on this. This was linked from the Bugzilla bug.

What I don’t understand is why this isn’t just a rollback, or at worst a revert commit and redeploy. I can forgive an issue with a slightly obscure browser, but the fix should be trivial for Google engineers?

maybe not that easy if they use monorepos

Re: www.google.com – The page is blank when accessed

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Post by chx »

robin_reala wrote: post #110
Thorrez wrote: post #102

Google is tracking the incident here: https://status.search.google.com/incidents/hySMmncEDZ7Xpaf9i... Disclosure: I work at Google but not on this. This was linked from the Bugzilla bug.

What I don’t understand is why this isn’t just a rollback, or at worst a revert commit and redeploy. I can forgive an issue with a slightly obscure browser, but the fix should be trivial for Google engineers?

Well, as these things usually go...

There's a feature important to Middle Manager 32456. You can't just revert it for a not-Google browser. That's just a no-go.

So a fix needs to be developed, QA'd, rolled. I presume it's going to be an out-of-schedule roll so it'll probably involve some bureaucracy. (One of my clients is a few thousand people public company and even there a hotfix requires QA lead approval.)

Nothing ever is simple.

Re: www.google.com – The page is blank when accessed

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Post by lupusreal »

Last month, Google Maps was completely broken (instant total tab lockup) for all users of a GCC-built Firefox. In that case it was Mozilla's fault, Google didn't change something to make that happen, but it tells me that Mozilla's QA is suffering and probably doesn't catch things that are Google's fault either.

I'm still using Firefox because I'm ideologically motivated to, but it's no wonder that so many users are dropping the fox for chromium browsers.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1866409

Re: www.google.com – The page is blank when accessed

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Post by eviks »

mglz wrote: post #97
Draiken wrote: post #93

Another reason to stop using Google. Don't waste the opportunity! Switched to DDG ages ago, and even though it's not amazing, it's already better than Google. Although, if we're honest, searching these days is absolutely atrocious everywhere. Any keyword search will only net you ads or "top X" articles full of SEO garbage most likely written by AI at this point...

For people who don't know them yet: use DDG bangs. For example "!m restaurant [citynmae]" will immediately bring you to Google maps, "!w chemistry" will open Wikipedia etc. Super easy and powerful :)

It's better to lose the inconvenient ! and use a browser that supports prefixes in the search bar

Then you can "w chemistry" to open Wikipedia with a list of suggestions from the same Wikipedia ("Chemistry (Girls Aloud album)") in the same place

Re: www.google.com – The page is blank when accessed

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Post by oh_sigh »

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #99

The latest comment on the issue states that Mozilla has a patch that can be emergency-deployed as a patch release. The proposed patch literally overrides the UA string for Google. Is it just me, or is this absolutely insane? When Google ships a bug, it's suddenly the responsibility of browser vendors to "fix" it at the browser level?

It's not the responsibility of the browser vendors. But they have an interest in un-breaking the experience for their users. In a sense, Google is too big to fail, so users want it to work any way possible.

It happens all the time, you probably just don't realize it. There is special code in Windows for supporting/un-breaking popular applications, same with Android and iOS.

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