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Post by lifeline82 »

tremon wrote: post #83
lifeline82 wrote: post #60

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Buddhism is derivated from Christian heresy called Manicheism. Created and spread in Asia from Pakistan by third generation after apostle, called Mani. There isn’t any evidence of any existing trace of Buddhism before 4th century AC, most Buddhism art are based on grec, and Syrian Christian artists who followed St Thomas the apostle into the east. Mani predated those early Christian with his fake teaching which found…

And in the same spirit, Christianity is just a Jewish heresy. What's your point?

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Re: Internet Sacred Text Archive

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Post by fuzztester »

fuzztester wrote: post #108
fuzztester wrote: post #102

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I will think and get back to you.

See the Bibliography section at his Wikipedia page that I linked above. From there: One is The Bhagavad Gita: >The Bhagavadgītā: with an introductory essay, Sanskrit text, English translation and notes (1948), 388 pages Another is The Principal Upanishads, also by him: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principal_Upanishads You could also check out another option for the Bhagavad Gita, by Eknath Easwaran. And other…

One more:

The Flight of the Alone to the Alone, by Osho.

It is about the Kaivalya Upanishad:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaivalya_Upanishad

https://www.google.com/search?q=flight+of+the+alone+to+the+a...

https://www.sannyas.wiki/index.php?title=Flight_of_the_Alone...

I have read that book. It is good.

Re: Internet Sacred Text Archive

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Post by hnbad »

cykros wrote: post #109
edgyquant wrote: post #22

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>Basic assumption is that most/all are based on dated observations of seasons, planets, stars, etc -- things that were once mysteries in the mechanical universe. I think this is pretty much propaganda from anti-religious people. I have read all of the major religious texts over the last two years and If you look at most religions and their scriptures they deal very little with the physical world in general and are mo…

Considering that the Big Bang theory came from a Catholic monk (who wasn't even burnt at the stake for theorizing about it!) I'd say you're probably right there. Sometimes folks are quick to paint religious people with the brush of the most radical of fundamentalists. Which is sort of ironic when you think about the statistics of how many actual religious people believe such nonsense as "the world is 6000 years old"…

IIRC the "rib" thing is especially funny to take literally because it might be a translation error. The original Hebrew word did not necessarily refer to an actual rib.

I used to be strongly anti-theist and anti-religion in my teens but a few decades later now I've realized my opposition is more to the way religion is used to justify unjust hierarchies and oppression. There are absolutely scammers and quacks who will use religion to make health claims or sell woo but there is a lot of religious tradition that can exist alongside a scientific worldview and can be helpful to process reality at an emotional level rather than rationally (and after all, humans are foundationally irrational no matter how much we try to pretend otherwise).

Re: Internet Sacred Text Archive

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Post by edgyquant »

fuzztester wrote: post #87
edgyquant wrote: post #48

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I’m extremely proud of your skepticism at something I really haven’t put much effort into. To clarify I haven’t read every religious text, but I have now read the Old/New Testament, The Baghavad Gita, The Tao te Ching, The Quaran and currently working my way through the Buddhist Sutras (looking to start on Sikhism next). That is the main text of all major religions and I only read 20-30 pages a day (with some overlap…

> The Baghavad Gita It's The Bhagavad Gita. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita

Yes, thank you. Typing from memory on my phone

Re: Internet Sacred Text Archive

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Post by fuzztester »

fuzztester wrote: post #108
fuzztester wrote: post #102

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I will think and get back to you.

See the Bibliography section at his Wikipedia page that I linked above. From there: One is The Bhagavad Gita: >The Bhagavadgītā: with an introductory essay, Sanskrit text, English translation and notes (1948), 388 pages Another is The Principal Upanishads, also by him: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principal_Upanishads You could also check out another option for the Bhagavad Gita, by Eknath Easwaran. And other…

A few more points:

I have not read Radhakrishnan's take on the Bhagavad Gita fully. I only read parts of it, when I was a kid. We had many books in that category (Indian spirituality and mythology) lying around at home. So I read some of them.

But I have read one or two other versions of the Bhagavad Gita fully, later on, but don't remember who they were by. There are some pocket editions of the Gita available too. I used to have one. If you are into that subject, I recommend getting a pocket one (along with a bigger one), so that you can read it when you are on the go.

As for Eknath Easwaran's books, I have only read these two: Meditation and The Dhammapada. So I cannot specifically recommend any of his other books. But they are likely to be good, based on his Wikipedia page.

Good luck.

Re: Internet Sacred Text Archive

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Post by huytersd »

_a_a_a_ wrote: post #106
huytersd wrote: post #68

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I guess but it’s $127 for information I can read in its entirety for free already. I’m sure if they had a more nominal price around $10-20 they would get a lot more purchases. After all it’s really an aggregation of existing texts.

> I can read in its entirety for free already then why consider paying?

To support a compilation effort? I just don’t think that effort is worth how much they’re charging for it.

Re: Internet Sacred Text Archive

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Post by _a_a_a_ »

huytersd wrote: post #118
_a_a_a_ wrote: post #106

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> I can read in its entirety for free already then why consider paying?

To support a compilation effort? I just don’t think that effort is worth how much they’re charging for it.

I basically said 'why pay if it's free?', Not 'why not pay?'. It's free to read as you have stated, yet you want to own it, yet you don't want to pay any significant amount for it. I suspect that if they charged $10 for it you still wouldn't be happy.

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Post by fuzztester »

devinjon wrote: post #5
stonlyb wrote: post #4

I've been curious lately about the existence of any religion, mythology, folklore, etc that capture something closer to the current edges of modern physics and astrology. Basic assumption is that most/all are based on dated observations of seasons, planets, stars, etc -- things that were once mysteries in the mechanical universe. Are there any that touch on quantum weirdness or more recent astrophysics (black holes,…

Well, the new-age has swallowed quantum woo whole. It is a kind of religion or attempt at modern myth making, I suppose. More respectably, a number of eminent physicists have fallen hard for philosophical Hinduism and or certain strands of Buddhism. Bohr, Schrodinger, Heisenberg, and Bohm among them.

>Well, the new-age has swallowed quantum woo whole.

>More respectably, a number of eminent physicists have fallen hard for philosophical Hinduism and or certain strands of Buddhism

Just as literally millions of people (comprising most of the world's population as a percentage), have "fallen hard" for other major world religions, for centuries, I guess? Yeah, right, it's all "woo". /s

Now (for the sake of TDD), put your money where your mouth is: go to a hotbed of any of those major religions, and sound off with a megaphone about your opinions, just as you did here. Let the resulting fun begin.

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