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Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Post by MikeKusold »

evandale wrote: post #109
chuckhendo wrote: post #95

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Exactly. I don't know where people get this about Apple. There are so many things that one could criticize Apple about, but older hardware support is not one of them

My custom built desktop that runs Linux/Windows is going on 24 years old. I don't think 10 year old electronics are anything worth writing home about. Apple also writes horrible software and breaks perfectly fine APIs with every OS release to eventually force you into hardware upgrades.

Somehow I don’t believe your Pentium 3 (1999) or your Pentium 4 (2000) processor is still your main computer.

Windows and Ubuntu have dropped support for 32 bit processors.

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Post by chuckhendo »

evandale wrote: post #109
chuckhendo wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. I don't know where people get this about Apple. There are so many things that one could criticize Apple about, but older hardware support is not one of them

My custom built desktop that runs Linux/Windows is going on 24 years old. I don't think 10 year old electronics are anything worth writing home about. Apple also writes horrible software and breaks perfectly fine APIs with every OS release to eventually force you into hardware upgrades.

Oh I don't disagree with that! I should have specified that, at least in the mobile world, Apple is much better about supporting their hardware for the average person than the alternatives

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Post by Redoubts »

jebarker wrote: post #88
stupidcar wrote: post #76

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For most people and companies, yes. But for Apple? They could have used their money and influence to campaign for patent reform.

Why would they do that?

Deadweight loss of needing to maintain a patent portfolio to defend against other infringement cases?

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Post by mikestew »

Simulacra wrote: post #79
riley_dog wrote: post #63

I can't decide if I'd be a fool to buy an Apple Watch right now. I'm ready for an upgrade, but I fear what happens long term if hardware changes are necessary.

Apple has increasingly moved towards a disposable tech paradigm. They seem to want, expect, and maybe even contrive a reason for you to throw away your device and buy a new one every year.

Given how long they support their devices, your comment calls for a big ol' [citation needed].

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Post by borgunit2 »

theturtletalks wrote: post #80
sandworm101 wrote: post #64

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>> As a small shop, I am particularly afraid of trolls shutting us down overnight with basically no recourse. I be more scared of non-trolls who own giant catalogues of patents. The giant companies will shut you down just as fast as any "troll". Try to invent any device with a touchscreen and an internet connection. It won't be trolls knocking on your door, but lawyers from Samsung, Apple and Microsoft.

How do companies like FairPhone exist then?

Well we exist too, but it makes it a tiny bit harder to sleep at night having nightmares about trolls. Thankfully we haven’t been targeted.

I do think a better system exists, and I’m all ears for any ideas around patent reform/USPTO funding.

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Post by doix »

themaninthedark wrote: post #92
doix wrote: post #22

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There was another article with this quote[0]: > “If they don’t want to use our chip, I’ll work with them to make their product good,” Mr. Kiani said. “Once it’s good enough, I’m happy to give them a license.” It sounds like they didn't just want some money. They wanted them to use their chip or partner with them. I am no Apple fan, but telling them to politely fuck off seems reasonable to me. [0] https://www.nytimes.…

The way I read this is, Masimo does not have confidence in the way Apple has implemented the technology and they don't want their name attached to a bad implementation. So they are giving Apple the choice of either buying a turnkey solution or partner with them to fix Apple's flawed implementation.

Yeah, and I think that's bullshit. If the implementation is so bad, then how is it infringing on the patent?

You can't have it both ways in my opinion. I hope they go to court and lose.

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Post by snotrockets »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #100
snotrockets wrote: post #57

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You didn’t bother to search, so let me paste the relevant content for you here: > The Dragonfly project was an Internet search engine prototype created by Google that was designed to be compatible with China's state censorship provisions. > The public learned of Dragonfly's existence in August 2018, when The Intercept leaked an internal memo written by a Google employee about the project. > […] > However, according t…

None of that conflicts with what I said.

Your comment suggests rank and file had power to shut it down (they didn't: it was the public scrutiny), or that it was shut down in response to happening a decade before it was shut down.

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

snotrockets wrote: post #117
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #100

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None of that conflicts with what I said.

Your comment suggests rank and file had power to shut it down (they didn't: it was the public scrutiny), or that it was shut down in response to happening a decade before it was shut down.

From what I remember the internal pressure was pretty intense, that the story about employees being against it is what the press covered and what caused the public scrutiny. You could claim that employee opinion would have been meaningless without public coverage of that opinion, but that is another argument all together.

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Post by dzhiurgis »

MikeKusold wrote: post #111
evandale wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My custom built desktop that runs Linux/Windows is going on 24 years old. I don't think 10 year old electronics are anything worth writing home about. Apple also writes horrible software and breaks perfectly fine APIs with every OS release to eventually force you into hardware upgrades.

Somehow I don’t believe your Pentium 3 (1999) or your Pentium 4 (2000) processor is still your main computer. Windows and Ubuntu have dropped support for 32 bit processors.

Yeah an Apple Watch would have orders of magnitude more computing power :|

Re: Apple is officially no longer selling the newest Apple Watch in America

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Post by unsupp0rted »

evandale wrote: post #109
chuckhendo wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. I don't know where people get this about Apple. There are so many things that one could criticize Apple about, but older hardware support is not one of them

My custom built desktop that runs Linux/Windows is going on 24 years old. I don't think 10 year old electronics are anything worth writing home about. Apple also writes horrible software and breaks perfectly fine APIs with every OS release to eventually force you into hardware upgrades.

Saying that it's physically possible to build and service a desktop that lasts a quarter century has no relationship to the length of support a consumer electronics company should offer.

I can still boot my white clamshell Macbook from almost 20-years ago. It didn't disintegrate at the 5-year or 10-year mark.

That doesn't mean Apple must continue to support it.

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