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High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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With all respect saving an odd one out from boredom of solitude has to give way to saving the vast majority from being stuck to their phones all the time.

Is it common for most students to be on their phone all the time during recess (to not even socialize between themselves, even to show each other stuff on them), and in class? Is there a reason why the no-phone policy can't be scoped to the classroom only? And about me, it wasn't just solitude. It was also nothingness. There was a computer room but it was just used for IT class and locked when not in use for that pur…

> Is it common for most students to be on their phone all the time during recess (to not even socialize between themselves, even to show each other stuff on them), and in class?

Yes. The default state appears to be primary (maybe even sole) interaction via phone. That's not to say that they're not showing each other stuff, but it's phone-to-phone - as in, sending each other social media messages, not passing a physical device back and forth.

I'm not quite so exercised about it as most people seem to be - the historically universal assumption about "the youth" is that everything they do differently is terrible, which has not typically turned out to be the case. As a (former, for now) teacher, however, the distraction-potential for / from phones is extreme. That goes for in-class, out-of-class, at-home, everywhere. I'm in favor of banning them entirely in schools, and (as a parent, who's still a few years away from facing it with my kid) limiting access at home.

Personal anecdote: my time teaching middle-school kids coincided with the brief pre-smartphone era in which they taught themselves to T9 with perfect fluency, without looking at the screen. The first few times I saw that I was so flabbergasted I couldn't even get mad. I don't know the exact age-range of that group, but it was a very precise demographic slice. I still tip my cap to those of you who learned that trick.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Ok this is the silliest nitpick but like... The personality/emotionality of the flipper zero has been the biggest thing stopping me from using mine more. Like, I classify myself as an empath, and it's physically painful to think about using it and having to face the dolphin's sad face if it's been a while. Looks like I need to hack mine to not get sad when I don't use it. Digital antidepressants, as it were...

Obviously the best option is to just use it regularly enough that the dolphin doesn't get sad!

I've heard of these, but don't own one. Is the dolphin the equivalent of the Duolingo bird, or were you making a joke? (Sorry to ruin the joke if you were making one, I was just curious!)

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

#113
post #85

Before any gets inspired by this and tries to use an F0 for assorted hijinks like this, just make sure you understand the legal framework in your country. In the UK where I am for example, this is almost certainly “deliberate interference with wireless telegraphy” which can carry a 2 year prison sentence. Not saying that the law isn’t an ass, just that you might want to know what you’re getting yourself into before y…

>Not saying that the law isn’t an ass The ass here is the person who is disabling phones that don't belong to him.

Shouldn’t everyone’s parents have already had their kids phones in school mode? Who would have been on their phone in the first place to notice it was off?

Pretty interesting they are referring to everyone whose photo turned off as victims. Wouldn’t they also be violators of school phone policy?

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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post #113
post #85

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>Not saying that the law isn’t an ass The ass here is the person who is disabling phones that don't belong to him.

Shouldn’t everyone’s parents have already had their kids phones in school mode? Who would have been on their phone in the first place to notice it was off? Pretty interesting they are referring to everyone whose photo turned off as victims. Wouldn’t they also be violators of school phone policy?

What is school mode? I've never heard of this.

Every country / locale has different school phone policies. Even breaking the rules why would they not be labeled as victims of a crime? Someone who was pranked would usually be labeled as a "victim of the prank".

FYI, I don't think this is some major crime that deserves jail time or serious consequences but it's still a crime.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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post #83

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Obviously the best option is to just use it regularly enough that the dolphin doesn't get sad!

I've heard of these, but don't own one. Is the dolphin the equivalent of the Duolingo bird, or were you making a joke? (Sorry to ruin the joke if you were making one, I was just curious!)

Closer to a Tomagotchi. It's just some cute little pixel animations. It "levels up" as you use it, and has a mood based on frequency of usage, and randomly rotates between different activities. It doesn't affect anything the device actually does, it's just for fun.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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post #48

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School grounds at all times. Being alone with your thoughts is still better than scrolling all day.

Speaking from experience, it is not. My school day was from 8AM to 4PM, lunch at 1, post-lunch recess at 1:30. Recesses lasted 30 minutes, with usually 4 per day. Years of having approximately 2 hours of alone-with-my-thoughts time (as a child to preteen, not an adult), every weekday. Not fun, and to this day I don't feel like it has given me any mental benefit.

Was this before the discovery of the book?

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Before any gets inspired by this and tries to use an F0 for assorted hijinks like this, just make sure you understand the legal framework in your country. In the UK where I am for example, this is almost certainly “deliberate interference with wireless telegraphy” which can carry a 2 year prison sentence. Not saying that the law isn’t an ass, just that you might want to know what you’re getting yourself into before y…

Also, if you are intent on doing this in K-12, make sure to practice strong opsec if executing on this. Source: banned from all SFUSD computers in middle school after exploiting misconfigured AD for the middle school library after the librarian noticed the time period it occurred

Ah, I was banned the first year of secondary school (11-16) because I persuaded the computer teacher's son to give me the admin passwords for the network...
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