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For contrast is there a conflict where people have been killed that doesn't meet that definition of genocide?
Yes, any conflict where the aim is not to "destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".
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Given your stance, if a murderer runs in your house then you'll understand when the police break the door down and kill you and everyone inside right?
If a murderer lives in your house for decades and you knew they were a murderer and were plotting more murders but you did nothing to root them out yourself, maybe you’re an accessory. It probably doesn’t justify the death penalty, but it also doesn’t help.
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You can't dismiss "think of the children" as a talking point when children are actually dying. This isn't FOSTA, this is an actual war with bullets and bombs and dead children on both sides. You should be thinking about the children.
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Erm, no? A mother whose childs have just been killed and who never supported Hamas in any way absolutely has the right to critize the bombings that killed her family, without having to present a working geopolitical plan.
Yes, but her critics is happily used by Hamas on propaganda channels becomes propaganda, and doesn't make anything better and doesn't solve anything.
How about on the other hand, the IDF does care again, where their bombs explode?
"Israel's defense minister said he has "released all restraints" on the Israel Defense Forces' troops in their fight "
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-wa...
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> A lot of Palestinian content descends straight into hyperbole. People have somehow been convinced a small amount of civilians being killed relative to the whole population is somehow a “genocide”. This is the consequence of totally unmoderated content. A genocide is the indiscriminate distruction of a population, that is exactly what Israel (with the support of the USA) is doing to Palestine.
Words have meanings. You truly think the current targeting has absolutely no distinction from just chunking bombs into a population centers at random. If you actually want to engage people on this topic, you are going to have to learn to moderate your language. Saying Israel is not using enough discretion when picking targets and the number of civilian casualties is too high, actually invites a nuanced discussion.
Is that what you mean by invites "nuanced" discussion?
Because what you're coaching to have happen is not even "nuanced". It's just intellectual judo. If it weren't you wouldn't be refusing to deal with it as is.
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Yes, but her critics is happily used by Hamas on propaganda channels becomes propaganda, and doesn't make anything better and doesn't solve anything.
So the mother should just shut up and accept that her children are not to be spoken about? How about on the other hand, the IDF does care again, where their bombs explode? "Israel's defense minister said he has "released all restraints" on the Israel Defense Forces' troops in their fight " https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-wa...
for sake of mutual peace and future every human should think hard before talking on sensitive topics. But humans can't, so we butcher each other instead for thousands of years.
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How do you know that? I know that many people fall into this pattern, but like I said, we lack the concrete examples in this case.
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I would note that no one in Palestine has chosen for Hamas to be there. They are more like a criminal organization with populist propaganda, with a focus on smuggling and sanctions evasion as a business model. Even the election they “won,” they really didn’t in the conventional sense, and there hasn’t been another in 10 years. I’m not taking sides, as someone raised Quaker and a later life Buddhist, I know everyone k…
Thank you for the color and the insight. It’s really helpful to remind myself how lucky we are to live in western democracies, a relatively new invention, and how 99% of humans who have ever lived have had no agency in the rules of the world they inhabit. I am curious what you think should be done in this israel conflict. What are the paths forward?
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Words have meanings. You truly think the current targeting has absolutely no distinction from just chunking bombs into a population centers at random. If you actually want to engage people on this topic, you are going to have to learn to moderate your language. Saying Israel is not using enough discretion when picking targets and the number of civilian casualties is too high, actually invites a nuanced discussion.
...In the same sense that not calling a spade a spade ends up channeling everyone else's energies away from dealing with a spade problem, and into needless quibbling on defintions to provide an aggressor someone might sympathize with some "intellectual cover"? Is that what you mean by invites "nuanced" discussion? Because what you're coaching to have happen is not even "nuanced". It's just intellectual judo. If it we…