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The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Post by NickM »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #45
cglan wrote: post #12

I live in NYC. The problem is that there’s literally 0 housing. That’s it. Literally so many people want to move here, but you look on all of streeteasy on a given day and there’s like 500 apartments. In a city of millions. Sure you can pay more and get something. But it used to be that you traded a lot of quality of life (in unit washer dryer, dishwasher, ac, no walkups, cars, space, etc) for a lower price and the s…

> Sure you can pay more and get something. But it used to be that you traded a lot of quality of life (in unit washer dryer, dishwasher, ac, no walkups, cars, space, etc) for a lower price and the social aspects of living in a city. On the other hand, if "every" landlord "just" asks for more, what the fuck is anyone going to do about it?

Move away? I mean maybe not everyone can easily do that, but as prices go up, fewer people will want to live there, and units will start going unrented until prices come back down.

But this is just basic economics. Supply and demand. Are you implying that that doesn't set the prices, and that landlords are leaving money on the table out of the kindness of their hearts? That seems unlikely to me.

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Post by starik36 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #94
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

covid spread through kids like wildfire, often via asymptomatic infections which then spread to, and killed, elderly who just wanted to see their grandkids. The amount of pushback these measures got, when we were literally just trying to save lives and prevent disability through long covid absolutely staggers the mind and erodes my faith in humanity.

I have no problem with sacrificing the elderly for the benefit of the kids. A few months of shutdown was reasonable, but shutting schools down for a couple years is too big of a price to pay. Also, my kids were in daycare the whole time outside of Mar to May 2020, and they were spreading all sorts of viruses just like they were before COVID. How the government chose to allow the most prolific spreaders to congregate…

> I have no problem with sacrificing the elderly for the benefit of the kids.

Read what you just wrote and ponder on it for a bit.

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

david38 wrote: post #90
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

covid spread through kids like wildfire, often via asymptomatic infections which then spread to, and killed, elderly who just wanted to see their grandkids. The amount of pushback these measures got, when we were literally just trying to save lives and prevent disability through long covid absolutely staggers the mind and erodes my faith in humanity.

A large percentage of the population relies on school for childcare. No childcare = no work = no money. A large percentage of those families didn’t have elderly in the home or visiting. For them, in-person school was critical.

...and hence why we helped those people who were unemployed and had children.

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Post by [deleted] »

peyton wrote: post #72
eatonphil wrote: post #51

It seems worth looking into what section of the population (either in terms of age or marital status or number of children or education or salary or whatnot) is moving out of NYC. For example, NYC still ranks at the top of where college graduates apply to [0]. [0] https://joinhandshake.com/blog/employers/where-are-college-s...

The comptroller’s report makes it look more like white flight. Especially figure 6.

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Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Post by ahoy »

tharne wrote: post #84

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The NYC police budget has increased every year since the "defund the police" movement. In fact, our cop mayor is slashing the budgets of almost every city office except the NYPD.

"Crime" is not at the core of this change. You'd know those things if you lived here, but you don't. You're just repeating what you read in the WSJ opinion section.

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Post by brewdad »

xeromal wrote: post #77
toomuchtodo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mostly. People leaving Florida typically end up in Georgia or the Carolinas. > For example, most people moving to Florida moved from New York, the fourth largest state in population and a longstanding origin of Florida-bound movers. https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2023/07/04/florida-i... https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/06/state-to-stat...

There are a random amount of New Yorkers in my tiny city in N. Georgia. lol. Something is amiss. haha. They seem to fit in well though taking up shooting, four wheelers, and other traditional activities.

When you say New Yorkers, do you mean New York City or elsewhere in the state? All of those activities would be pretty common in New York once you get a couple hours away from the City.

Re: The changing face of post-pandemic New York City

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Post by ghc »

tharne wrote: post #84

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If you actually read the article you'll see it has nothing to do with crime. Crime remains at historically low levels: https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statisti...

It has everything to do with expensive housing. NYC is becoming wealthier and whiter, with low income and minority residents forced to move out over housing costs.

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