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Re: Google Gemini Pro API Available Through AI Studio

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Post by abeshkek919 »

WiSaGaN wrote: post #110
mil22 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

60 QPM free is great, but the pay-as-you-go pricing is the same. Courtesy of GPT4: "To determine which option is cheaper, Gemini Pro or GPT-3.5 Turbo, we need to consider the average length difference between tokens and characters and the pricing structure for each. Gemini Pro Pricing: Input: $0.00025 per 1,000 characters Output: $0.0005 per 1,000 characters GPT-3.5 Turbo Pricing: Input: $0.0010 per 1,000 tokens Outp…

I am wondering why it would price them in characters but not tokens? Are they processing characters directly as tokens without tokenizer?

Maybe because it's easier this way to estimate the data size before you send it to the API.

Re: Google Gemini Pro API Available Through AI Studio

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Post by zlg_codes »

krapp wrote: post #106
zlg_codes wrote: post #104

I'd like to know why the name of this AI product coincides with the alternative in-between-HTTP-and-Gopher Gemini protocol. I'm sure it's just an accident.

"Gemini" is a very common name (being the name of a constellation) which has been used by countless products, companies and endeavors over the years. Almost no one outside of Hacker News and a small core of misanthropic anarchists knows about, much less cares about, the Gemini protocol. In the case of this specific Gemini, it's apparently the result of there being two teams involved, and it's a reference to the Gemin…

Interestingly, were it trademarked you wouldn't have this snarky attitude about how a name doesn't matter unless people care about it. I'm not talking on other forums right now either, so who cares about outside of HN while talking on HN?

Re: Google Gemini Pro API Available Through AI Studio

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Post by krapp »

zlg_codes wrote: post #112
krapp wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Gemini" is a very common name (being the name of a constellation) which has been used by countless products, companies and endeavors over the years. Almost no one outside of Hacker News and a small core of misanthropic anarchists knows about, much less cares about, the Gemini protocol. In the case of this specific Gemini, it's apparently the result of there being two teams involved, and it's a reference to the Gemin…

Interestingly, were it trademarked you wouldn't have this snarky attitude about how a name doesn't matter unless people care about it. I'm not talking on other forums right now either, so who cares about outside of HN while talking on HN?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You asked and I answered, and provided a reference for the answer, which was outside of HN.

And as far as trademarks go, it still wouldn't matter. As I mentioned, countless entities were already using "Gemini" before the protocol was created, and Google's AI isn't even in the same domain.

Re: Google Gemini Pro API Available Through AI Studio

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Post by WiSaGaN »

abeshkek919 wrote: post #111
WiSaGaN wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am wondering why it would price them in characters but not tokens? Are they processing characters directly as tokens without tokenizer?

Maybe because it's easier this way to estimate the data size before you send it to the API.

I am not sure about that. You are already using API, should be trivial to use a tokenizer to get the number. Also prompt is just minor part of the cost. You have much less control in the completion part, which is the majority of the cost.

Re: Google Gemini Pro API Available Through AI Studio

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Post by yeldarb »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #78
yeldarb wrote: post #71

We put the image portion through its paces and compared it with GPT-V here: https://blog.roboflow.com/first-impressions-with-google-gemi...

*4V

OpenAI calls it GPT-V https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8555496-gpt-v-api

Re: Google Gemini Pro API Available Through AI Studio

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Post by witort »

cccybernetic wrote: post #41
imdsm wrote: post #16

Typical Google UX. Get API key, takes me to makersuite, where I get a create API key button that errors. Then when I reload the page, I get a straight forbidden page. HP said it best, you have to isolate the team from the bigger company to allow them to work as an effective startup. How can solo-preneurs provide better UX & onboarding while doing 16 other jobs than Google can with multi-billion dollar budgets?

Similar thing just happened to me. Click on link > Get API Key > "We are sorry, but you do not have access to Early Access Apps" Since I'm the admin, I checked and confirmed that I do have access. It's enabled for both my account and the entire organization. Whatever.

I had the same problem until I also enabled "Core Data Access Permissions"
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