23andMe changed its terms of service to prevent hacked customers from suing

Post by c7b » Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 5:58 PM UTC

xvector wrote: post #27

d2049 wrote: post #21

I would have presumed that security-minded people, which includes those who work in tech, would not so easily give away their genome, and that most of 23andMe's customers are a slice of the general population. But then I read about things like WorldCoin and that people who go to startup parties jump at the chance to give away scans of their retinas and I'm befuddled. Why would anyone willingly do that?

I am a security engineer. When I signed up for 23andme, I assumed with certainty that it would be hacked and all data leaked at some point. I balanced that with the value of knowing potentially important health/genetic bio markers. In the end, I valued knowing these bio markers above the privacy of my genome. The former is actionable and I can use it to optimize my health and longevity; the latter is of vague value a…

Post by Tempest1981 » Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 5:59 PM UTC

sithlord wrote: post #112

andrei_says_ wrote: post #107

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Except that the truck driver has zero fault for the gravel on the road and the spacing between the tires and the mud guard of the truck his employer maintains. Or did you mean you’d seek out the ceo of the truck company and give them a black eye?

This is usually related to drivers who do not use the cover of their truck they are legally supposed to. So rocks fly out the top.

Post by CyberDildonics » Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 6:01 PM UTC

drivers99 wrote: post #89

croes wrote: post #78

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So you would be ok if governments around the world have sample of yours and store it in a database?

Yes. What's the problem?

Post by vik0 » Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 6:02 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #65

d2049 wrote: post #21

I would have presumed that security-minded people, which includes those who work in tech, would not so easily give away their genome, and that most of 23andMe's customers are a slice of the general population. But then I read about things like WorldCoin and that people who go to startup parties jump at the chance to give away scans of their retinas and I'm befuddled. Why would anyone willingly do that?

The same people believed crypto-currency, infinite growth, social media and many other things. At least 23andMe provided actual value, to some at least. What I find strange is that 23andMe did not automatically delete data after 30 days, or at the very least took it offline, only to be available on request. Notify people that their results are available and inform them that the data will be available for 30 days afte…

Post by fkyoureadthedoc » Tue, Dec 12, 2023, 6:08 PM UTC

croes wrote: post #73

6177c40f wrote: post #16

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No, I don't think that that's obvious. At least in the US, there are already protections for genetic information (including but not limited to GINA [1]). In the long run, I think keeping your genetic information private will be untenable- the potential benefits will outweigh the drawbacks. Plus, anyone sufficiently motivated could get your DNA somehow, you shed your DNA everywhere you go, no getting around that. So w…

>Plus, anyone sufficiently motivated could get your DNA somehow, you shed your DNA everywhere you go, no getting around that. But these people need to get close to you. 23andme made it easy for someone who could have been on the other side of the globe.