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Re: YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads

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I love Youtube and consider it a major contribution to the modern world -- however it would have been "invented" within a few months regardless of who built if first and would have grown regardless of who acquired it. It's important to recall that Youtube grew not because of "you" -- there was really not any kind of creator ecosystem for the first phase of massive growth. Youtube grew because of piracy and the postin…

I don't know about growth at different stages, but the reason it took off initially is that Flash added video capabilities and YouTube was built around that ubiquitous plugin.

Before that, you needed a video player installed on your computer that then either loaded in-browser or played videos after download. You often needed multiple players installed as none supported every video format.

Re: YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads

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When you are an ad company then why would you reject the source of revenue?

Ad companies usually don't own the broadcast network too.

Garbage ads damage a brand. Google doesn't do anything because they think Youtube's goodwill will last forever. It won't. They've already ratcheted up the ads to a level where regular users are complaining.

Re: YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been thinking about this for a while. I've seen many of these community notes - how exactly do these work ? Is a community note borne out of "most upvoted" replies to a particular tweet ? If so, how does it go from a simple upvoted reply, to a "community note" ?

You need to sign up to become a community notes contributor. Then you can add notes, and if enough people from a diverse set of other contributors find it helpful, the community note will publicly appear. It's one of few things at Twitter that work shockingly well and reliable. I've never seen an obvious partisan community note. Other networks should embrace this.

> It's one of few things at Twitter that work shockingly well and reliable.

Elon doesn't think so. I would expect it to change soon.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1733882978781053383

Re: YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads

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As it turns out there is a whole category in YouTubes ad system for Get-Rich-Quick schemes, as detailed out in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhGJUTW3ag&t=1031s (timestamped at the relevant time). Just today I saw my elderly father click on a YouTube ad link for a crypto scam copying Swedish televisions web layout he was reading it and I saw it at the corner of my eye. He has adblock installed, he disabl…

> What is he supposed to do, create a google account and get premium instead? I just put my parents on my family plan, you should consider it, it's a very low price for the peace of mind, plus they love not having ads

So basically I'm supposed to pay protection money? Yeah, I don't give into extortion...

Re: YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads

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They're all like that. A whole back I reported an obvious real estate scam using Wayne Gretzky and some Blue Jays player (I'm in Canada). The reply was it didn't break any policy. When ads are the primary source of revenue, there's zero incentive to police the platform

>The reply was it didn't break any policy. What is the policy, as long as you pay and don't do anything outright offensive, it's all fair game?

The problem is that big companies don't want to broadcast their serious ad along scam ads¹. That is a serious treat for Youtube revenues.

¹ At least I wouldn't if I was doing ad campaigns of a big company, but maybe I'm naive...

Re: YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads

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Same experience for me, reported several clear scam ads and just get a reply from G that they don't violate any policies... :/

Next step is your local attorney general. (or whatever the equivalent position is in your company). They should be able to find plenty of things that have long been illegal about promoting scams. Of course will they do their job?

One man's "politician doing their job" is another man's "strangling innovation with bureaucratic red tape".

Re: YouTube doesn't want to take down scam ads

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post #111
post #92

I love Youtube and consider it a major contribution to the modern world -- however it would have been "invented" within a few months regardless of who built if first and would have grown regardless of who acquired it. It's important to recall that Youtube grew not because of "you" -- there was really not any kind of creator ecosystem for the first phase of massive growth. Youtube grew because of piracy and the postin…

I don't know about growth at different stages, but the reason it took off initially is that Flash added video capabilities and YouTube was built around that ubiquitous plugin. Before that, you needed a video player installed on your computer that then either loaded in-browser or played videos after download. You often needed multiple players installed as none supported every video format.

This is a bit like saying car use grew because of differentials. Cars use differentials but the reason car use grew isn't the differential. If it wasn't the differential it would be some other mechanism that does the same thing.

Don't attribute user interest (which is what made YouTube grow) to the technical aspects of the site. That is almost never the case.

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