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Re: Ansel

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Post by naejin »

cfn wrote: post #97
kqr wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the flip side, coming from Darktable and trying out Lightroom felt like trying to do good old darkroom work with my hands tied behind my back. Darktable offers a few really powerful, generic tools that you can use in different ways to get different effects – things like equaliser, parametric masks, LAB curves, etc. It makes little sense to use it without reading up on some of those more advanced tools first. Light…

Would you mind giving examples where you use parametric masking? I read the docs* and it is not very clear to me the practical side (I'm a Lightroom user). * https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/3.8/en/darkroom/maskin...

This video shows how parametric masks can be used: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfw-GWowH9M

This is one of the most powerful feature in this software.

Re: Ansel

#112

Post by non-nil »

Darktable needs the tantacrul treatment. https://www.youtube.com/@Tantacrul

Maybe Pierre can pull it off himself. He’s clearly knowledgeable and has strong convictions and Darktable is incredibly powerful, so I’m hoping the good bits from either camp can be reconciled into something lasting, minding the bus factor.

Darktable’s issues and lack of coherent stewardship is quite noticeable.

Re: Ansel

#114

Post by foobar1962 »

kqr wrote: post #93
foobar1962 wrote: post #56

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Electronic imaging in terms of television has been around since the 1940s or 50s. We all watched Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. It was a pretty safe bet that resolution would get better until it exceeded film.

If only Kodak had you around at the time!

Kodak had more patents in digital imaging than any other company. Why they failed is partly because they underestimated how much the overall photography market would decline and what needed to be done to be successful in the 10% that was left.

The winners were electronics companies (notably Sony and Panasonic). The losers were the photographic companies who were really chemical companies. Fujifilm was one of the few that survived because they went into (amongst other things) cosmetics and coating films for LCD screens, both of which leveraged expertise they already.

Re: Ansel

#115

Post by leononame »

I for one am glad that someone with a more holistic approach takes this on, even if Aurélien is really snarky. Darktable really is a usability mess and is easy to use incorrectly.

I'm also glad he is taking donations, since the darktable project won't take any. It gives me hope that this would give him the freedom in actually implementing his vision.

Re: Ansel

#116

Post by pdntspa »

zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #30
chpatrick wrote: post #14

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And well-known existing product name.

I never heard of it. After looking it up, I don't get the appeal. Not sure why someone would want to take fancy screenshots of video games unless they're marketing a game.

Gen Z absolutely demands it and gets cranky without a photography mode

Re: Ansel

#117

Post by ghostly_s »

ISL wrote: post #80
brudgers wrote: post #45

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I admire his work. But as a Darktable user, I found the implementations of strong opinions frustrating because I value actual workflow above potential technical superiority. Display referred worked fine for me because the important work happens before the shutter is clicked. The skill I want to develop is fixing things in the lens not fixing them in post. Breaking changes suck. But again open source developers don’t…

The legacy editing workflows are generally, if not entirely, still available in Darktable. I haven't yet encountered a defect in my old edits on new versions of Darktable.

they're all deprecated in this fork, though.

Re: Ansel

#119

Post by jug »

Haha, I love his a bit unprofessional tone. :D

So much pent up anger - and I understand! Darktable has a strange approach to evolving their software. They somehow keep everything old and bad as they add improved versions and you end up with tons of ways to do very similar things, and to add to this mess, Darktable often uses its own nomenclature, or a very very technical one. If you're coming from Lightroom or Capture One, you feel like taking your first steps on a new planet. For no reason!

So, I'm sold! I'll definitely take a look at this. He gets it!

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