Does that mean random websites would no longer scream "Congratulations, youve won!!"?
Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox
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Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it's not, because if the Flash object is invisible, it simply does not give you any way to enable them unless you go to the preferences and explicitly add an exception. This was my entire point in the first place, if you look up at the beginning of the thread. For example, turn on click-to-play and then go to pandora.com. If Chrome treated Flash the same as Java, you would still be able to use pandora easily.
read his post again. he's not talking about the click-to-play ui. there's a puzzle piece icon in the taskbar. clicking it displays a drop-down menu, and even if the flash is invisible you can choose the "enable flash on this page" option.
Ah yes, I see now.
Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox
#113Oh man, bad memories. I used to get so frustrated with Internet Explorer* for doing this about 7 years ago. I was young then, 12 or 13, and had just gotten Flash for my birthday. I know it had to be 2004 or 2005 because the version was Flash MX 2004. I was young enough and it was long enough ago that I think I was using Internet Explorer primarily, and got terrible frustrated when they started using this default clic…
I remember that, I believe it was the result of a patent lawsuit. Something about a company had the patent on the concept of embedding assets into the page and automatically starting on page load, or something like that. Microsoft's response was to force the click-to-play mechanic to get around it and then people figured out how to get around that. I don't recall any other browser having to deal with that particular…
What a stupid fucking patent.
Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox
#114Oh man, bad memories. I used to get so frustrated with Internet Explorer* for doing this about 7 years ago. I was young then, 12 or 13, and had just gotten Flash for my birthday. I know it had to be 2004 or 2005 because the version was Flash MX 2004. I was young enough and it was long enough ago that I think I was using Internet Explorer primarily, and got terrible frustrated when they started using this default clic…
I remember that, I believe it was the result of a patent lawsuit. Something about a company had the patent on the concept of embedding assets into the page and automatically starting on page load, or something like that. Microsoft's response was to force the click-to-play mechanic to get around it and then people figured out how to get around that. I don't recall any other browser having to deal with that particular…
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Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does, though not with the same UI as the Java plugin: http://i.imgur.com/xHrRX.png Clicking the puzzle piece shows a menu to "always allow" or to "enable all Flash applets on this page" (and a few other things). I can see a more obtrusive/apparent UI being implemented if Firefox makes click-to-Flash default.
A problem I found with Chrome's current implementation is on pages where you don't even know flash is being used, Google Translate and Soundcloud for example, after thinking the site was broken I remembered I had click-to-enable active.
Indeed, this happens to me too. And I think this is why Mozilla will need to have a very good UI to tell the user how to fix a broken site (or just fix it for them e.g. through a crowd collective).
Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't you just love progress? Time to redo stuff that already works!
Isn't that the very definition of progress? I'm pretty sure the horse-and-cart worked just fine when the automobile came around.
horse-and-cart didn't stop working when the automobile came around. The proposal here is that we shoot all horses and burn all carts because somebody somewhere has started driving an automobile.
Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox
#117Great idea. Opera browser made this a long time ago. The innovator that everybody else copies.
Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
The about:config setting currently works only in Firefox 14, available on the Nightly channel: http://nightly.mozilla.org/
False. Already works for me on FF12b4.
I should have clarified that the pieces of the implementation landed starting in Firefox 11, but key bugs like https://bugzil.la/730318 weren't fixed until Firefox 14. It won't work correctly on all pages in earlier versions.
[I'm a developer of Firefox for Android, which has click-to-play enabled by default starting with version 14.]
Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't that the very definition of progress? I'm pretty sure the horse-and-cart worked just fine when the automobile came around.
horse-and-cart didn't stop working when the automobile came around. The proposal here is that we shoot all horses and burn all carts because somebody somewhere has started driving an automobile.
No, the proposal here is that we ban horses and carts from the interstate highway system because they get in the way of the new faster automobiles.
Re: Mozilla may make Flash click-to-play by default in future Firefox
#120Did anybody notice that this feature is already available (off by default) in Firefox 11 stable?
I hope they don't turn it on, or advertisers will move away from Flash to Canvas.