Huh. So that mixed nonprofit/profit structure came back to bite them.
Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
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Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#112I hope they go back to being Open now that Altman is gone. It seems Ilya wants it to 'benefit all of humanity' again.
Means free Gpt4?
Ps: It's a serious question
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#113If this was an ideological battle of some kind, the only hope I have is that OpenAI will now be truly more Open! However, if this was motivated by safety concerns, that would mean OpenAI would probably become more closed. And, if the only thing that really distinguishes OpenAI from its competition is its so called data moat, then slowing down for the sake of safety will only give competitors time to catch up. Those competitors include companies in China who are undoubtedly much less concerned about safety.
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#114Is anyone else suspicious of who these "insiders" are and what their motive is? I notice the only concrete piece of information we might get (what was Altman not "candid" about?) is simply dismissed as a "power struggle" without any real detail. This is an incomplete narrative that serves one person's image.
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#115Did ChatGPT suggest a big surprise?
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
The irony is that a money-fuelled war for AI talent is all the more likely to lead to unsafe AI. If OpenAI had remained the dominant leader, it could have very well set the standards for safety. But now if new competitors with equally good funding emerge, they won’t have the luxury of sitting on any breakthrough models.
I’m still wondering what unsafe AI even looks like in practical terms The only things I can think of is generated pornographic images of minors and revenge images (ex-partners, people you know). That kind of thing. More out there might be an AI based religion/cult.
How about you give it access to your email and it signs you up for the extra premium service from its provider and doesn't show you those emails unless you 'view all'.
How about one that willingly and easily impersonates friends and family of people to help phishing scam companies.
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#117I just hope the "AI safety" people don't end up taking LLMs out of the hands of the general public because they read too many Isaac Asimov stories...
I am addicted to got now:/
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#118The average SWE at OpenAI who signed up for the “900k” compensation package which was really > 600k in OpenAI PPU equity probably saw their comp evaporate. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36460082
> This is why working for any company that isn’t public is an equity gamble. That's a cynical take on work. I assume most people have other motivations since work is basically a prison. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR1jzExZ9T0
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Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#119If the firing was because of a difference in "vision", then it doesn't really matter if Altman was key to making OpenAI so successful. Sutskever and co, don't want it to be successful (by market standards at least). If they get their way (past MSFT and others) then OpenAI will no longer be the cutting edge. Buy GOOGL?
It seems you are saying that anything that doesn’t put profit first can’t be successful.
Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps they don’t want to work for a board of directors which is openly hostile to the work they’re doing?
I don't think wanting to make sure that their technology doesn't cause harm equates to being hostile to the work itself.
That would seem based on the individuals motivation at the end of the day...
It's easy to imagine two archetypes
1) The person motivated to make AGI and make it safe.
2) The person motivated to make AGI at any cost and profit from it.
It seems like OpenAI may be pushing for type 1 at the moment, but the typical problem with capitalism is it will commonly fund type 2 businesses. Who 'wins' really breaks down to if there are more type 1 or 2 people and the relative successes of each.