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Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Holy batman the takes in this thread are pretty terrible. You can still get full data dumps, you can still use the free API but they are limited the number per period. As a heavy user of OpenSubtitles this change looks completely reasonable for such a wonderful service.

The "full data dump" contains only some metadata and the download link for the file. You can't get all the subtitles from the dump.

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Did anybody (outside of the tech/HN open-source-die-hard bubble) actually leave Reddit? From what I saw, there were protests which most Redit users barely noticed (the front-page just served content from the subreddits that didn't go private), and then there was nothing. The long-term impact seems to be small to nonexistent. Maybe if the users organized better and started posting "brand unsafe" content everywhere ins…

For my feed, a ton of the NSFW subreddits went away, became so low quality that following them was pointless as the mods left or engagement dropped to ridiculous levels, even the OG big tankers. r/gonewild for example has nominal 4.6 million subscribers - but among the default "hot" feed on the first page there's just four posts with > 500 karma, and on the 2nd page there's tons of posts with 80-120 karma. That's ins…

I follow r/europe and I have also noticed a huge change. What once seemed to be a pretty open subreddit appears to have turned into exactly what you mentioned, with vile comments on immigration and Islam on almost every thread.

I did start to wonder if people's viewpoint on immigration has changed as the narrative that Europe is "saturated" with immigrants seems to be being pushed a lot at them moment, but I have a feeling that the audience of Reddit and r/europe seems to be changing. I wish there was some way to know for sure.

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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I predicted this moment when they switched to opensubtitles.com domain. Realistically though, their importance has diminished noticeably with tools like Whisper.

If you mean OpenAI's Whisper, has anyone created an actual product that people can use with downloaded videos?

Absolutely. Bazaar [0] can download subtitles from tons of sites, and if they're not available, it can use Whisper [1] to generate the subtitles.

[0] https://www.bazarr.media

[1] https://wiki.bazarr.media/Additional-Configuration/Whisper-P...

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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That's not a full dump of subtitles, but rather of list of which subtitles they have, with download links. Here are the first lines of the `subtitles_all.txt` file: IDSubtitle MovieName MovieYear LanguageName ISO639 SubAddDate ImdbID SubFormat SubSumCD MovieReleaseName MovieFPS SeriesSeason SeriesEpisode SeriesIMDBParent MovieKind URL 1 Alien3 1992 English en 2004-10-31 23:54:23 103644 sub 2 Alien.3 11.000 0 0 0 movi…

Yeah, I was wondering if that could be the full dump. I know how far compression algorithms have come, but 318MB for all the subtitles of the world ? Would be interesting to know though how large a full dump would be.

My guess is not by much. Text doesn't require a lot of storage. After looking at a few random files my estimate is that the size of the full compressed dump would be about 30x (~10 GB)

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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post #31

Am I wrong that a script is copyrighted and thus charging for it, something they have no right to distribute, opens them to all sorts of potential legal action? It’s a lot easier to look the other way when it’s free. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/fan-made-subtitl... (2017)

Oh, it's not a "tricky fair use case" at all. They'll end up having to pay to whoever licenses these things fees at some point for using dialogue from scripts (not a transformative use of copyrighted material at all) as the basis of their business. They're flying under the radar now but, you're right, a day of reckoning is coming for them.

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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post #95

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i don't follow that argumentation. do you think that people who want subtitles would pay for content if there were no subtitles available for it? subtitles either increase sales, or they do nothing. they may increase illegitimate sharing, but they won't do it at the expense of sales.

> do you think that people who want subtitles would pay for content if there were no subtitles available for it? Pretty much. If you're Japanese and don't speak English, and a show you really want to watch is only available to pirate in English (no subtitles available) which means you can't understand it, but if you subscribe to Netflix you can watch it with Japanese subtitles that Netflix provides... I mean yeah? I'…

ok, i was thinking of content that didn't have official subtitles.

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

#117

> Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP's per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user. > If you wish to offer subtitles without prompting for an opensubtitles account, please contact us and tell us about your project... For an ea…

I feel like every time something has started with the name “Open”, the promise that lured people in (sometimes implicit, sometimes explicit) has been broken.

Open Exchange Rates: the fact that you didn’t need an API key was an important part of their gaining popularity. Of course, this fell down at some point, at least partly due to stupidly-coded clients, and so they started requiring an API key, and completely hobbled the free plan for many previously-recommended uses (only hourly updates and 1,000 requests per month; a month is up to 744 hours, so they really are just saying “if you want to use this broadly, either pay us $97/month, or cache it yourself hourly, proxying it if you have multiple access points”). Not very open.

OpenAI: eh, you probably already know the story. They broke their word and premise thoroughly.

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

#119

I predicted this moment when they switched to opensubtitles.com domain. Realistically though, their importance has diminished noticeably with tools like Whisper.

If you mean OpenAI's Whisper, has anyone created an actual product that people can use with downloaded videos?

I've used https://github.com/tomchang25/whisper-auto-transcribe to convert from Dutch to English on my win11 box with some success.

It's not perfect, and it'll completely lose some dialogue, but it's let us enjoy shows that we couldn't before.

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

#120
Before I used to have a subtitles website and mentioned I would downloads subs from his website (keeping any credits in filename or contents)

he wasn't very happy (because my website would compete with him and take ad revenue from him)

at the same time any "extension"/media player that downloads the subs can do it freely

so was it ever open or not?

just because my website had an easier to way to monetize unlike VLC extensions or wtv

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