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Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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post #109

But how so? Encryption? Will it break at every other small change from Apple?

From other sites, it seems it uses a Mac Mini in a server room as a proxy for iMessage to accomplish this, with the massive drawback of having to provide Nothing your Apple ID credentials.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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post #112

Site doesn’t work. But I suspect backend might be a matrix bridge.

Uses the Sunbird app https://www.sunbirdapp.com. Requires one to sign in using their Apple ID which, I presume, is actually stored/signed in on an actual server somewhere in their DC.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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It looks like this is powered by Sunbird: https://www.sunbirdapp.com.

Another alternative for iMessage is Beeper: https://www.beeper.com/imessage

They both have a waitlist at the moment, but Beeper seems to be opening up to a lot of new people.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Looks like Nothing is partnering with a US-based third party called Sunbird to build this service. From Sunbird’s site (https://sunbirdapp.com):

> Will the app be open source?

> Some of the messaging community believes that software that is open source is more secure. It is our view that it is not. The more visibility there is into the infrastructure and code, the easier it is to penetrate it. By design, open source software is distributed in nature. There is no central authority to ensure quality and maintenance and by putting that responsibility on Sunbird, development would not be feasible. Open source vulnerabilities typically stem from poorly written code that leave gaps, which attackers can use to carryout malicious activities.

Not sure I’d be willing to trust them with my Apple ID credentials.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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post #117

Looks like Nothing is partnering with a US-based third party called Sunbird to build this service. From Sunbird’s site ( https://sunbirdapp.com ): > Will the app be open source? > Some of the messaging community believes that software that is open source is more secure. It is our view that it is not. The more visibility there is into the infrastructure and code, the easier it is to penetrate it. By design, open sourc…

What a crock of shit

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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post #115

AFAICT this is the thing enabling the "blue bubbles", which the Nothing Phone bundles: https://www.sunbirdapp.com/ Not to be confused with Mozilla's (if anyone remembers that one): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Sunbird

FYI for others, MKBHD just did a video on this and he warned that when using sunbird you are signing onto a physical mac mini somewhere, giving it access to your apple account which isn't great if you keep important things on there.

https://youtu.be/ji5HwS3bhlU?si=2iW4zELhePyzV0rj

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