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Re: Ex-Kotaku staff go independent and launch Aftermath

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I find it funny how many comments here complain about the infusion of politics into games media but not one mentions the fact that games media in general is a prime example of "access journalism". Most gaming media outlets live in fear of losing access to pre-release copies of games because it would mean their reviews will lag behind their competitors. This means they go easy on games (the average review score on any…

I do agree, the bickering about politics is a little silly when you consider just how terrible the actual "journalism" part is. I think there's a general feeling that all journalism has faltered a little bit in the face of the Internet and a 24 hour news cycle, but I'm not even sure video game journalism was ever good . I'm not sure it was ever really 'journalism'. I'll admit I do miss the older generation of video g…

> bizarro way that people have become regressive about sexuality in video games

There's a certain amount of "puriteen" pushback, but BG3 has done extremely well out of it without a backlash. The trick was to do something other than the same old exploitation.

Re: Ex-Kotaku staff go independent and launch Aftermath

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If you're going to carry on some old grudge against a website you should at least try to explain to the rest of us what you're mad about

I think I’m good on explanations from someone being so mad about video game websites that they’re calling for “war” and “genocide”, actually.

Re: Ex-Kotaku staff go independent and launch Aftermath

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post #59

if you look into the names of the founders, all of them are activists, one of them has a colorful gamergate history, one mentions labour issues in their byline. their position statement is in the fourth paragraph, it starts with "widespread labor organizing, industry-changing mergers and acquisitions, sweeping layoffs", and then reads "We need a curious, independent press to hold power to account, to cut through the…

How could someone who worked for Kotaku not have a "colorful gamergate history"? What does that mean, exactly, when Gamergate was a hate campaign originally targeting Kotaku writers based entirely on false allegations? Or were they one of the organizers of gamergate somehow?

You're perfectly entitled to dislike their work but it's weird to see people use language like this.

Also, what's wrong with being an activist? Is it bad to care about things now? What is their activism for? Are they an activist for something bad? If you specify what it is about their activism that's harmful it's much easier for people to understand the concern.

Labour issues, for example, are extremely relevant in video games since labour conditions at game studios frequently contribute to games shipping unfinished or in a bad state, and players actively dislike that. Games press cannot avoid covering labour conditions with how frequently crunch and layoffs harm the quality of shipped games.

Re: Ex-Kotaku staff go independent and launch Aftermath

#114
post #73

I always preferred Joystiq (RIP) to Kotaku, but I'm happy to see more sites moving to this model. I'd much rather just pay writers money so that they give me content than have to wade through ads anymore. And I think it's a model that can work: Defector has been a great successor to Deadspin. Now if only they would do that for the AV Club...

I can't afford to subscribe to every site starting up. None of them have day/week pass options or the ability to pay to read one story out of their archives, so it's $7/month or nothing. My budget for this isn't going to grow just because subscription sites proliferate.

I know we love decentralization here but I'd love if all these co-op sites shared an umbrella subscription, MaxFun style, where you could direct most of your subscription fee to the sites, or even the individual writers, that you want to support. Shared infrastructure, focused support.

Re: Ex-Kotaku staff go independent and launch Aftermath

#115

I find it funny how many comments here complain about the infusion of politics into games media but not one mentions the fact that games media in general is a prime example of "access journalism". Most gaming media outlets live in fear of losing access to pre-release copies of games because it would mean their reviews will lag behind their competitors. This means they go easy on games (the average review score on any…

Food for thought: maybe because people try to make better than mediocre games, the average review score is higher than 5/10.

Couldn't the same be said for movies of music? I don't think most people set out to make mediocre media. There's nothing special about games in this regard.

In general the whole scale of scores for games is shifted upwards: https://old.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/eu63f/modern_gaming...

Re: Ex-Kotaku staff go independent and launch Aftermath

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What is it about news media, newsletters, etc that makes them so bad at pricing their subscriptions? When you consider the fact that the average reader will want to read a variety of publications/newsletters about topics, charging $7/month for JUST your news site is, I'm sorry to say, delusional. This isn't to single out Aftermath specifically, I see this kind of thing all over the place. Lots of substack newsletters…

> but I think this can be done much more effectively by charging a more reasonable monthly rate that will broaden the customer pool.

Can it?

For many, just paying anything at all is the initial hurdle.

Re: Ex-Kotaku staff go independent and launch Aftermath

#117
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Aftermath itself might suck, The initial articles are well written.

"We're trying something different, thanks for joining us" A comma splice isn't the end of the world, but if this is the post that's advertising your new enterprise to the rest of the world, then it tells me you have some inexperienced writers.

Even experienced writers suck at this. It means they have no actual editors.

Re: Ex-Kotaku staff go independent and launch Aftermath

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Yeah, agreed. The first name in that list is a guy who gave great reviews of a game by a developer who was sleeping with him. Of course, due to one (or both? I forget which) of them being married, of course that fact had to be a secret . In any other publication, the author's sexual liasons with the subject of the piece is considered a clear conflict of interest. Not so in gaming, it appeared.

Wow! I thought you were joking but the first name is the dude at the center of what started “gamergate” and everything that followed it. Thanks for pointing that out. This site is just another in a long list of game journalism sites that is worthless.

I thought a deranged online mob started Gamergate.

Re: Ex-Kotaku staff go independent and launch Aftermath

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Based on the link it sounds like they want to carry on with what they've always done but get more money. I get the desire but I doubt the content is going to go back to what it was 25 years ago. The way I see it today, ideological reviews are what is mainstream. It's not about how the game is, it's how inclusive they are to minorities that is what reaches the front page. It's fucking bizarre but it makes sense when t…

Yeah, agreed. The first name in that list is a guy who gave great reviews of a game by a developer who was sleeping with him. Of course, due to one (or both? I forget which) of them being married, of course that fact had to be a secret . In any other publication, the author's sexual liasons with the subject of the piece is considered a clear conflict of interest. Not so in gaming, it appeared.

Could you post a link to this review? I would like to verify this information.

Re: Ex-Kotaku staff go independent and launch Aftermath

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Food for thought: maybe because people try to make better than mediocre games, the average review score is higher than 5/10.

Couldn't the same be said for movies of music? I don't think most people set out to make mediocre media. There's nothing special about games in this regard. In general the whole scale of scores for games is shifted upwards: https://old.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/eu63f/modern_gaming...

> don't think most people set out to make mediocre media.

Heh I’m not sure. I’ve been following the drama around CA and total war recently and the company seems to have set to do exactly that. Pump out mediocre recycled crap as long as people keep buying it. Except this time it’s blown up on them.

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