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Bhutan declares its entire street dog population fully sterilized and vaccinated

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Re: Bhutan declares its entire street dog population fully sterilized and vaccinated

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Post by throwaway2037 »

wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #50
martopix wrote: post #40

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Hopefully you don't have to be a Buddhist for that. Also I don't really see the advantage compared to sterilization.

Even though in certain Buddhist countries animals get slaughtered for food, taking lives of animals is a big thing in Buddhism. There is fundamentally no difference between animal consciousness and human in the buddhist view. But to take it to a human level: you dont see a difference in (chemical) castration of people with mental disability and killing them?

    taking lives of animals is a big thing in Buddhism
How do explain (South) Korea and Japan that eat plenty of meat and have a Buddhist majority? Sri Lanka also has lots of Buddhists, and also eats lots of meat. This seems like nonsense to me.

Re: Bhutan declares its entire street dog population fully sterilized and vaccinated

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Post by jim-jim-jim »

serpix wrote: post #76
Lutger wrote: post #61

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I remember being chased by a pack of at least twenty angry wild dogs. This was in India, not a fun experience.

Similar experience. One of them even tried to go for my leg. Had a very very bright flashlight which I used to blind them. After that I walked with a sharp ended walking pole and would not hesitate to stab them with it. It was a very hairy situation. Did not encounter the pack again since I stopped moving around the town at dark.

Even in the West I now have to walk with a break stick in my bag thanks to dumb cunts adopting pitbulls and letting them roam offleash.

Nobody is willing to treat animals like animals any more. It's obscene.

Re: Bhutan declares its entire street dog population fully sterilized and vaccinated

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Post by samus »

progbits wrote: post #98
samus wrote: post #92

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Depends how affordable DNA tests are. For a developing country, sterilization and vaccination might be cheaper than tracking every stray dog to their or their parent's owner. Policy can also make this infeasible if, for example, dog registration is too expensive in the first place for owners.

It might be surprisingly cheap. Prague was doing DNA matching on dog poop in the streets to fine owners for not cleaning up. I think there were some problems from people breaking the poop bins and scattering the contents everywhere to reduce trust in the system ("it's not my fault, I cleaned up, someone took it out of the bin") but that wouldn't be a problem for strays right?

The Czech Republic is not a developing country though, but the wealthiest of the former Eastern Block countries. The cost might be easily covered by the fines, but I'm not so sure whether enough money can be extracted from perpetrators in less affluent countries.

Re: Bhutan declares its entire street dog population fully sterilized and vaccinated

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Post by School-Cotton »

saalweachter wrote: post #102
samus wrote: post #95

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Then they are the offspring of dogs that escaped or were abandoned long ago. Probably they also took over the population of any related species they can interbreed with.

That's an interesting historical and semantic question. So there may not be any such thing as a "wild pigeon". Pigeons were domesticated so long and widely that all modern pigeons in the wild may be the feral descendants of ancient domesticated pigeons. But we still view modern pigeons as just a thing that exists out in the world. If street dogs have been a self-sustaining population for long enough does that change…

I’m not sure the exact answer, but one major difference between stray dogs and truly wild animals is that dogs typically can’t survive in the wild, they need to live near human settlements. This sets them apart from wolves (the nearest wild relatives of dogs).

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Post by dizhn »

0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #64
nwiswell wrote: post #30

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> Street dogs gather in packs and periodically attack people: not just small children, they go after grown men and women who are just walking down the street during daylight hours. This happened to me at night in Istanbul 10 years ago. I was walking down a side street and a pack of 5-6 dogs noticed me and began to follow me. At first they were tentative, but increasingly the bolder ones in the group closed the distan…

I wonder how common this is as a cause of death.

There's a very vocal population of dog haters. You'd hear about it if anybody died.

Turkey is very close to social collapse. People take every opportunity to hate on another group. This goes for the other side -dog lovers- too.

Re: Bhutan declares its entire street dog population fully sterilized and vaccinated

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Post by crotchfire »

stef25 wrote: post #100

Quite the achievement. Many years ago on a Thai beach there were a few stray dogs and the locals said one was called "Balls" because he was the only one that they couldn't sterilize. Every time the vet arrived Balls would smell him a mile away and just bolt, disappearing for a few hours.

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Re: Bhutan declares its entire street dog population fully sterilized and vaccinated

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Post by samus »

koolba wrote: post #97
striking wrote: post #52

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You actually want the sterilized strays to remain so that they put pressure on the resources that would otherwise feed the unsterilized strays. That suppresses the stray population even further. Also, wtf?

If the suppression from competition is having an effect, then you’ll have dogs dying in random places from malnourishment. You might also have more aggressive dogs as the hungrier an animal is, the greater risks it will take to feed. Directly euthanizing them would definitely be more effective. Reality is just too grim for some people to admit.

The populations will just rebound unless you really manage to euthanize all of them. Sterilizing and vaccinating takes care of the problem.

Unless the problem really got out of hand, it's not just "some people" who oppose a total cull. Even if people silently approve of the cull, one will find much less volunteers for such an effort than for a large-scale sterilization and vaccination program.

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Post by Adverblessly »

Propelloni wrote: post #107
sinuhe69 wrote: post #12

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Compared to “only” 500 millions pigs, the number of dogs is astounding. No wonder many countries also use them as food.

This number seems a little bit off. About 900 million pigs are slaughtered in Asia per year [1] That's 2.5 million dead pigs a day. Since we need live animals to breed more for killing them and it takes time before they are killed, this suggests that at any given time more than a billion pigs are alive in Asia. But good thing that we sterilized those 150000 dogs, anything else would have been inhumane [2] [1] https:/…

According to a random page I found online, pigs are typically slaughtered at 5-6 months old, so assuming a stable population, you'd expect the number of living pigs (raised for slaughter) at any time to be 42%-50% of the yearly amount, so 375,000,000 - 450,000,000 going purely off of your 900,000,000 figure, making 500,000,000 a reasonable estimate, no?

Re: Bhutan declares its entire street dog population fully sterilized and vaccinated

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Post by reportgunner »

khazhoux wrote: post #28
autoexec wrote: post #8

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Usually in cartoons the dogs were simply taken to the pound, which was depicted as being basically "jail for dogs", but I suspect that most of the animals picked up off the street by dog catchers didn't spend a lot of time behind bars.

They'd be sent to a nice ranch upstate, right?

Back to the dog factory to be reconfigured into a good boy.
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