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Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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Are human beings responsible for changing how they use their own language? Or is just Word responsible for that?

Maybe MS Word is just changing things so fast that we are able to notice it, but the languages we use and the ways we comunicate have changed over time and will keep changing.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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post #78

I'm a but wary in general about how US tech used around the world slowly erodes the nuances of different cultures. Often the software doesn't take into account how things work in other languages, different regions etc. I'm also not sure I'd blame the engineers in SV too much, of course they design software based on their own context. But with tech becoming global, it's a bit sad how it's not prioritized more. Example…

Any information exchange erodes culture. Movies, music, academia, anything. But I think that’s a good thing. Other people feel differently and want to preserve small patches of “pure” cultures, but I think the world is better and richer when hugely diverse cultures are diffused widely.

I might agree with you in theory. In reality the American culture spreading across the globe is just sad to me. I don't want to get a Subway sandwich in the US, let alone Germany or Signapore...

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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post #84

I'm a but wary in general about how US tech used around the world slowly erodes the nuances of different cultures. Often the software doesn't take into account how things work in other languages, different regions etc. I'm also not sure I'd blame the engineers in SV too much, of course they design software based on their own context. But with tech becoming global, it's a bit sad how it's not prioritized more. Example…

> My name contains a letter not in ascii, breaking lots of systems Tell me about it. In my native language (European) we have accents at the end of some words (like città or pubblicità ; city and advertisement respectively). As someone that works with typography in someway or another, I can't count how many times I had a font that didn't support the character à or é or whatever and I had to choose a font that looks s…

> ISO (please fill me up on the number)

8601

https://www.iso.org/iso-8601-date-and-time-format.html

Speaking of dates, if you live in the US did you remember to move your clocks back an hour last night? If you live in Europe, it's next week.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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post #50

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> People in 24h cultures always use 12 analog hours in normal situations No, we don't. The only person I know who by default uses 12h is my grandmother. Everybody else always uses 24h.

I've never heard anybody from a 24h country use 24h unless it's regarding situations where there cannot be any ambiguity. You either live in an exceptional place, or interact with exceptional people. World you really say "At fifteen o'clock" instead of "At three o'clock" or "Three in the afternoon"?

You obviously haven't been to France.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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post #38

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Oh my god, as a Scandinavian, the whole American thing about boobs is so annoying! It seems like the internet really want to force me to be shocked about seeing a chest, it's so weird. Most of the time, it is completely outside of a sexual context, but videos get 18+ because you apparently take psychological damage of you see a pair of tits before you're allowed to vote. Actually didn't know about the quote thing tho…

Until the internet breaks its dependency on advertising income (a significant portion of which are either American or global, meaning they want to be inoffensive to Americans) and the internet breaks its dependency on allowing advertising to be channeled through an American company, moderating to prudish American moral standards is here to stay. It would be a net positive if Google's advertising business was broken u…

Sure relative to Europe America has prudish standards. But what about the Arab sphere? China? India? You know, like 3-4 billion people?

Yeah, I think America has pretty liberal standards.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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I'm a but wary in general about how US tech used around the world slowly erodes the nuances of different cultures. Often the software doesn't take into account how things work in other languages, different regions etc. I'm also not sure I'd blame the engineers in SV too much, of course they design software based on their own context. But with tech becoming global, it's a bit sad how it's not prioritized more. Example…

The one that always gets me is how Google's image captcha assumes everyone knows what American school buses, fire hydrants, crosswalks, and various other street features look like. As a youngish EU citizen I do know those from cartoons and the internet, but I doubt my parents do > Or how things are moderated to an US standard It's just comical how adults on Youtube talking about adult topics are pressured into censor…

> It's just comical how adults on Youtube talking about adult topics are pressured into censoring even mild profanity

This may come as a shock to people here, but European countries have their own censorship in their own for adults political programs and TV. This idea that it is somehow unique to censor swearing is really weird.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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post #52

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I grew up in the UK and still couldn’t tell you this off the top of my head. Most people can’t - when setting up systems with a cutoff date/time I’ve regularly been asked to have them expire at 11:59pm, because it avoids any ambiguity here.

I think that's generally a sensible idea. Anything which required a schedule for humans to read - theatre performances, trains, planes, etc - are better off being scheduled for 23:55, 23:59, 00:01 or 00:05 than exactly at midnight because lots of people don't understand or get confused whether 00:00 on a date means the start or the end of the day. I do enjoy though where systems have to deal with 'weird' days. I beli…

I remember reading somewhere that some systems use a 26 hour clock in that it's literally valid 00:00 to 25:59, or 28 hr for 00:00 to 27:59. 24:30 10/1 and 00:30 11/1 mean the exact same thing, it's a notational convenience to not have to worry about date boundaries between days.

Trying to find the source again but not having success.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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> While it would be an overstatement to say Word alone made English the dominant language, as a US firm, Microsoft's mother-tongue is American-English. When this is coupled with Word’s ubiquity, it at least reinforces this dominance. > "Word primarily operates in English," says Noël Wolf, a linguistic expert at the language learning platform Babbel. "As businesses become increasingly global, the widespread use of Wor…

And even the shortcuts are localized. A Spanish Word installation will use ctrl+g (guardar) instead of ctrl+s (save), for instance.

Re: Subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed how we use language

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> While it would be an overstatement to say Word alone made English the dominant language, as a US firm, Microsoft's mother-tongue is American-English. When this is coupled with Word’s ubiquity, it at least reinforces this dominance. > "Word primarily operates in English," says Noël Wolf, a linguistic expert at the language learning platform Babbel. "As businesses become increasingly global, the widespread use of Wor…

Your last sentence is hinting on something that actually has more bearing on technology effecting language: HTML. When I was first learning HTML & CSS it irked me to have to spell "colour" wrong to get things working. Now I just use the US American spelling everywhere (it helps that I'm currently in the US).
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