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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by cglong » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 1:01 AM UTC

jmspring wrote: post #61

Am I the only one shaking my head that they kept comparing the M3 chips against M1 chips skipping M2? Just like the last product release spent more time on huffing their own farts (the Apple Watch is the first of its kind carbon negative product), there is no real innovation or something to garner interest for me here.

A few years ago, I tried to figure out the battery life of the latest iPhone. The comparison page would only say "2 more hours than iPhone X", "4 more hours than iPhone 8", etc. Eventually I worked my way backwards to the iPhone 6 where the battery life was just listed as "—".

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by graphe » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 1:01 AM UTC

Just as Qualcomm shows it's chips are getting better, Apple pounces! The layout looks very different from m2, it must have been delayed. Does anyone know if it's using HBM3?

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by m3kw9 » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 1:01 AM UTC

jmspring wrote: post #61

Am I the only one shaking my head that they kept comparing the M3 chips against M1 chips skipping M2? Just like the last product release spent more time on huffing their own farts (the Apple Watch is the first of its kind carbon negative product), there is no real innovation or something to garner interest for me here.

They compare to M1 because that is their target audience upgrades not M2.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by Diti » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 1:01 AM UTC

clouddrover wrote: post #73

> And, a new media engine now includes support for AV1 decode, providing more efficient and high-quality video experiences from streaming services. It's taken years but AV1 has ended up everywhere.

Sadly, only a handful of GPUs out there have hardware AV1 encoding chips. If I read the product page correctly, that new M3 architecture still cannot encode AV1 from hardware.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by rwc » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 1:02 AM UTC

anemoiac wrote: post #37

Can we use more than one external display yet?

Of course. Have been since M1 Max. My MacBook Pro M1 Max powers two external displays.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by coldtea » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 1:02 AM UTC

perryizgr8 wrote: post #57

> Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max, the most advanced chips for a PC Nice! When can I order these most advanced PC chips for my next build? Do they have any kind of upgrade path for existing AMD/Intel users? I don't mind starting over too! Exciting times.

>When can I order these most advanced PC chips for my next build?

If you have several billion dollars to convince them to sell them for you as standalone chip, very soon!

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by oh_sigh » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 1:02 AM UTC

chii wrote: post #23

adocomplete wrote: post #10

I purchased a fully maxed out M2 Max MacBook Pro when it was announced like 6 months ago. I knew it was going to be outdated eventually, but within 6 months, wow. Did not expect that.

i mean, if the machine does the job you purchased it for, is it really outdated? Unless the job it is doing is to be the best and latest, as a status symbol...

Lessens the resale value at the very least.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by renewiltord » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 1:02 AM UTC

300bps wrote: post #25

How did Apple become so successful making high-end CPU chips on their own so quickly?

Not quickly. People have been predicting this since the PA Semi purchase.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by Jensson » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 1:02 AM UTC

jmspring wrote: post #61

Am I the only one shaking my head that they kept comparing the M3 chips against M1 chips skipping M2? Just like the last product release spent more time on huffing their own farts (the Apple Watch is the first of its kind carbon negative product), there is no real innovation or something to garner interest for me here.

The M2 was a tiny upgrade over the M1 since the 5nm to 4nm step was tiny, 4nm was basically 5nm. The M3 is probably running on TSMC's 3nm which is a huge improvement over both their 5nm and 4nm processes.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Post by hotnfresh » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 1:03 AM UTC

zamalek wrote: post #83

jmspring wrote: post #61

Am I the only one shaking my head that they kept comparing the M3 chips against M1 chips skipping M2? Just like the last product release spent more time on huffing their own farts (the Apple Watch is the first of its kind carbon negative product), there is no real innovation or something to garner interest for me here.

I guess they are seeing too many M1s in the wild - you're supposed to upgrade to a new Apple device a d create e-waste.

E-waste? Apple devices retain their value really well. If you don’t hand them down, you sell them.