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Re: Samsung disables customer phones remotely, holds data hostage [video]

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Post by bigger_inside »

hutzlibu wrote: post #95
monksy wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> are beeing chinese owned and there is a trade war? Lol it takes a lot more than being a Chinese owned company to get banned in the us the majority of the things that we buy is made in China. If it was that reason you wouldn't be able to buy anything in the store anymore

So .. where is the proof for anything? Otherwise the difference is in strategy. A toaster is geopolitical not so important, like communication infrastructure.

I get the impression that it's strategy to exclude competition that otherwise can't be beat.

You can't beat Huawei cell towers. You increasingly can't beat Huawei phones, which have become much better and cheaper than iPhones.

You can make up some story about it being spyware (while we have a mountain of proof that the US has spyware in Western devices...) and exclude them, also hoping that it will limit their advance. Of course, the opposite has happened, CHinese tech comapines have now rapidly gained the ability to sourse in-house (or in-country) what they used to import, leading to a tech jump through sanctions.

Re: Samsung disables customer phones remotely, holds data hostage [video]

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Post by bigger_inside »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #72
elvis70 wrote: post #18

Related: "Samsung and other manufacturers disable phones bought on gray markets" (10/23/2023, 164 comments): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37990528

As a text-not-video consumer, I appreciate being pointed to a source I can read.

unrealted to this thread, I know, but yes, thank you. I despise when the top results and the casual links to support something turn out to be videos. I don't want to stop everything I'm doing to dedicate 100% of my attention to something on a fixed take-up time schedule. Give me a text I can scan while my other audio keeps playing, thank you!

Re: Samsung disables customer phones remotely, holds data hostage [video]

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Post by kazinator »

Everything Samsung I ever owned was a piece of shit, going back to a 2002 era DVD player whose firmware failed a week after it went out of warranty, booting up to a frozen screen full of garbage pixels.

I decided some years ago never to get another Samsung anything.

Re: Samsung disables customer phones remotely, holds data hostage [video]

#114

Post by vGPU »

bigger_inside wrote: post #111
hutzlibu wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So .. where is the proof for anything? Otherwise the difference is in strategy. A toaster is geopolitical not so important, like communication infrastructure.

I get the impression that it's strategy to exclude competition that otherwise can't be beat. You can't beat Huawei cell towers. You increasingly can't beat Huawei phones, which have become much better and cheaper than iPhones. You can make up some story about it being spyware (while we have a mountain of proof that the US has spyware in Western devices...) and exclude them, also hoping that it will limit their advanc…

The company that just pushed an update that marks Google play services as malware and tries to break android is “better than iPhone”?

Get out of here.

Re: Samsung disables customer phones remotely, holds data hostage [video]

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Post by stalfosknight »

q3k wrote: post #74
stalfosknight wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has new iPhones for sale at various price points all the way down to the very affordable iPhone SE.

The iPhone SE still starts at 3x the price of a low-tier Samsung smartphone. Example from Poland: https://mediamarkt.pl/telefony-i-smartfony/smartfon-apple-ip... https://mediamarkt.pl/telefony-i-smartfony/smartfon-samsung-...

You get what you pay for.

Re: Samsung disables customer phones remotely, holds data hostage [video]

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Post by RecycledEle »

dist-epoch wrote: post #76
RecycledEle wrote: post #5

We need a law, and that"s coming from a libertarian. If the owner of a hardware device is using it, that person has total control over the device. Nothing can be blocked. Nothing can be hidden. All data must be available in plain language. That owner/user should have the right to inspect and modify everything in the device in plain language. With today's memory / storage capacities and with today's LLMs, that should…

> Nothing can be blocked. Nothing can be hidden. In US/EU there is a law which explicitly forbids complete access to the wifi part of any device. So that you can't modify it's maximum power/frequencies. Any company giving you complete wifi access is criminally liable in US/EU.

That is not my understanding as an American amateur radio operator. I can modify and posess any radio transmitter I wish. I can transmit within the limits of my FCC license(s.)

Re: Samsung disables customer phones remotely, holds data hostage [video]

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Post by RecycledEle »

RecycledEle wrote: post #116
dist-epoch wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nothing can be blocked. Nothing can be hidden. In US/EU there is a law which explicitly forbids complete access to the wifi part of any device. So that you can't modify it's maximum power/frequencies. Any company giving you complete wifi access is criminally liable in US/EU.

That is not my understanding as an American amateur radio operator. I can modify and posess any radio transmitter I wish. I can transmit within the limits of my FCC license(s.)

I admit my answer is cheating. Throwing in my ham radio license was not on topic.
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